Originally Posted By seanyoda Great comments! We'll have to see what we get next week. I re-ran the preview to see if anyone else was missing, but they only showed Todd, James, P.G., and maybe Erik. BTW, they also had a casting call for The Amazing Race (yay!)
Originally Posted By Lisann22 See I don't feel sorry for PG at all. I think she's like a bull in the China shop (no pun intended but pretty good). She's made numerous blunders. I would have been thrilled to see Courtney or her go. Frosti's attraction to Courtney - he's 20 and she hangs on him and lets him hang on her, enough said. James while funny to hear his commentary is starting to work my nerves. Erik is just to late to try and gave some game now. None of them appeal to me. I'm watching for the entertainment but rooting for no one in particular. It's almost like who was the least stupid this week - ok I hope they win, no they said something irritating scratch that. <sigh>
Originally Posted By sun-n-fun I DVRed last night and havn't watched yet. i was looking here to see if anyone mentioned who got voted off (I'm not one for suspense - I'll still watch he he). Did they have tribal council, but not tell us who went?
Originally Posted By smeeeko they did have tribal council but it gets interesting.. you better watch!! LOL as far as annoying comments.. I keep hoping James will get a clue and bring his immunity idols.. he just thinks he's immovable regardless. That is starting to work my nerve I don't like people that presumtuous.. ugh.
Originally Posted By sun-n-fun Wow, I finally watched now i can't wait for Thursday, or is it next Thursday.... I agree that James is getting a little to sure of himself. I do like him, but he's may go out with 2 idols if he isn't careful. I do wish they's get rid of annoying Courtney!!!
Originally Posted By cstephens This week is a recap episode. Since it's Thanksgiving, I was figuring they weren't showing anything, but I guess they decided to go the recap route. /cs
Originally Posted By sun-n-fun AWWW that stinks. Anyone have any idea what the big continuation will be?
Originally Posted By cstephens I'm sure some people know, but since this is a non-spoiler thread, please do not even post a hint of it for those of us who prefer not to be spoiled. /cs
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb I bummed a recap is being aired this Thursday. I'm very curious about the cliff-hanger but I'll be at WDW when it airs and the DVR has been acting flaky (at least as far as this season of Survivor).
Originally Posted By sun-n-fun Just looking for people with good imaginations that might have their own thoughts on the continuation - not an actual spoiler, just a conversation. Could be that someone else will be voted off right away, could be someone coming back into the game.
Originally Posted By smeeeko ^they've brought people back from 'the dead' before but it was part of the culture of the place they were visiting.. They've had a season where they "merged" but didn't hand out buffs.. but everyone thought they merged they were so excited.. then some people messed up and were gone.. They've done tradings in several different ways, they sent people to "exile island" they've stolen members, they've done double votings before too. I really don't know what they haven't tried.. I wouldn't begin to guess honestly.
Originally Posted By x Pirate_Princess x Oh. My. GOSH. The BIG Surprise isn't at the end of the last Tribal, but the NEW tribal. DON'T MISS IT!!!
Originally Posted By cstephens I thought this was a terrific episode all around. So the big twist was that they did an immediate reward challenge after tribal council, with the winner and two people going to the exclusive Shaolin temple. I was actually very happy that PG won that one. You could see the look on her face when Jeff announced the prize. I think she would have been crushed if she hadn't won or hadn't been chosen to go. The only Chinese contestant actually wins the most cultural award to date on this season. Interesting that the subject of the challenge was about the culture itself. Did they engineer this for her to win, since she would have had more of a background, other than Jean Robert, though they were probably all given stuff to read? I thought she was going to pick James and Todd to try to play game, but it was actually nice that she picked Eric and Denise, more so once we found out that Denise had some training in karate. It was interesting that the outcasts got to go on the reward challenge while the main alliance all stayed at camp. There really wasn't that much game to discuss, though Amanda showed that she had other ideas. The karate demo was pretty cool to watch, but as soon as they mentioned Denise's training, I knew that was going to show up some time. It was cool that she got to demo to the kids. Being able to perform at Shaolin temple is probably going to be something that Denise never forgets, though when she thanked PG for choosing her, I was figuring that meant she would probably vote her off at the next tribal, since that's how it happens a lot. Courtney is still bugging me. When outcasts came back and PG was talking about the reward, it wasn't like she was just volunteering. She was asked. And Courtney is going on about "her" cave. Ummm, when did she become master of the cave? I was also annoyed at Todd for being mad at PG for trying to play the game and suggest voting him off. Ummm, yeah, he's one of the strongest players, and she's on the chopping block. Of course she's going to try to stir it up to save herself and target him. I don't get when people think it's fine when they have to do this or that to play the game (considering Todd was going to try to blindside James previously), but if the game is played on them, then they're mad and it's not right, blah, blah, blah. So Amanda now embraces and even implements the plan to blindside James that Todd had previously advocated and that she didn't like. Maybe they just haven't showed footage, but it's about time more people are seeing exactly how big a threat James was, both in his actions and with his two hidden immunity idols. I liked the flying stars challenge - culturally related and fun to watch. Nice that Eric came out on top. I also liked in the machinations before tribal when Amanda had to finally convince PG to stop stirring the pot and just act as if she was going home. I know it must have taken a lot for PG to believe her. And then we got to one of the best tribal councils ever, second to one from last year, imo. Everyone played the role they needed to play, especially PG emphasizing her being voted out and being on the jury and people needing jury votes. Even after they voted, and before Jeff started reading the votes, Amanda and Courtney were looking back and forth at people, rather guiltily. OK, you're not out of the woods yet. Until Jeff has read the first vote, James can still play an idol. Stop looking and acting guilty. But even though James later admits that he was suspicious, he doesn't play either of the idols - and he is completely blindsided. You could see Todd trying not to laugh, and when it all became obvious, we were busting up at the look on his face, and his pulling his cap down, the look of sheer joy on PG's face as she realized she was not in fact going home, and the laughter of the jury members at what was happening. And to top it off, major kudos to James for accepting his position graciously. He wasn't angry about being voted off. He understood why it happened and that it was his mistake not to play an idol. Very classy. /cs
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb >>>Very classy.<<< I agree. I was fond of James, but have been so starved for good game play I was pleased to see the vote go the way it did. It's good to see Amanda is a "playah", she really orchastrated a big change. It could improve her chances at the million, no one likes to see the play-along girl win the mill. They want to give it to someone who earned it. I'd like to see Todd then Courtney go next. Amanda, Denise, Eric and PG make an interesting final four.
Originally Posted By seanyoda Pretty good episode. I love it when the family members participate in the challenge, and I was not disappointed. It was amusing to see the various methods used for communications; The bird calls were particularly funny. As for the winning team, I was stoked that Denise and her husband won. As for her choosing Todd and Amanda, well, strategically they were good choices. Back at camp, Courtney says what everyone was thinking, "Could Todd have been pulling a 'Johnny Fairplay' move?" only she did it with a lot less tact. I wonder if her confessional will come up during the reunion show. Now, do I believe the story? Yes. Would it garner any sympathy from me for Todd? Not really. I really enjoyed the immunity challenge. It's great to combine both a physical and mental challenge, and it was even better that the mental challenge made the difference. Still, we've seen a couple of challenges that have had elements to help PG. I don't see this happening again. As such, they had to work Denise and try to get her to flip. Tribal council had its moments. I loved the reaction when the jury heard that Denise won the reward challenge and Todd's reaction when Jeff asked Denise about the downsides of folks learning about your family. I wonder if Denise would have voted differently had she seen Todd's reaction. I wanted her to vote for Todd in that it would have made for a great survivor moment. Still, I understand her deciding not to betray old tribal loyalties. Looking ahead to next week, does Amanda make the play to get rid of Todd? Only two more episodes left! One last note, I watch this on my DVR, so I usually fast forward during the opening credits, and had, until last night, not noticed that the credits show who's still in the game, and who's on the jury.
Originally Posted By cstephens My husband had noticed this a couple weeks ago, but this was the first time I actually watched it for myself - they've changed the way they do the "opening credits". Usually, they just continue to show all the members of both original tribes. This go-around, though, once they got to the merge, they changed the opening credits to only show the people who were still on the merged tribe and then also the people who had then moved to the jury. (Before the merge, not sure if they took people out of the intro once they were voted out.) I think that's an interesting change, and it actually makes a lot of sense. The other people really don't matter anymore, and with no more than 10 people to show, it makes the opening credits shorter. As it was, in previous seasons, once they got toward the end, I would periodically watch the roll-call, and I wouldn't even really remember half the people they were showing. I had mentioned about last week's episode that I thought it was weird that Todd was so mad when Denise told him that P.G. was gunning for him. So this week, he says that it would be smart for the others to vote him out, but he wasn't going to tell them that. Ummm, ok, P.G. already not only thought about it but tried to pull it off several days prior, and you got all mad about it. The family challenges are often fun to watch, and it's especially touching to see the reunions. I noticed that Denise was the only one who had a spouse as visiting family. And it really shocked me that Courtney's father was British. With the way that she is, I just completely didn't expect her father to be English. I loved the look on his face when Jeff explained what the challenge was. When they first showed the maze, I thought they were going to have one person talk the other through while blindfolded. I don't remember a challenge before where both people are blindfolded, and they have to find each other *and* find a particular location. That was pretty cool. Amanda and her sister with their bird-calling sounds were cracking me up. Courtney seemed irritated with Jeff's play-by-play. Ummm, that's what he's supposed to be doing. I thought it was cool that Denise won. I wasn't terribly surprised that she picked Todd and Amanda. At that point, it's about alliances. Even though P.G. had chosen her to participate in the last reward, I didn't think that necessarily obligated her to pick P.G. in return, though P.G. apparently did. So, something else I noticed - what is with Amanda's butt? I've noticed over the past few episodes that either during a challenge or even when they're just walking around camp or something, the area around Amanda's butt is blurred. No, I'm not staring at her butt - the blurring actually catches my attention. This time, I noticed it particularly when they were getting on the boat for the reward challenge, I think. I'm presuming that her underwear or bikini bottom or whatever she's wearing is showing too much of her butt to be aired on TV without being blurred. Just seemed odd to me. When they came back from their reward challenge, and they had chocolate on their hands that the others licked off - ewww. I thought that was kind of weird. I guess I wouldn't know unless I was in that position, but the thought of licking food off of someone's hand just strikes me as icky. I don't think I could do it. Maybe I just don't like chocolate enough. So P.G. wins a do-or-die immunity again. In this case, I didn't think the challenge was skewed towards her like I thought last week's reward challenge was - the questions seemed a lot harder this time, and it was only because Todd missed the last question that she ended up winning. Having to do with nothing, there was some point when Todd was doing a sort of diary entry to the camera, and his hair was just sticking up and all weird. He reminded me of a chia pet. So Erik and P.G. try their best to turn Denise, but they fail, and Erik is voted off. It was interesting that Denise's testimonial during her vote was that this was probably the biggest mistake she'd make in the game. If she thought that could be the case, then why do it? I do think Erik and P.G. had a very valid argument. Denise has gotta know that she's fourth in her alliance, even without hearing what Todd and Amanda said with their siblings around. Unless she can win an immunity challenge, she's gone when final four rolls around. If she had voted with P.G. and Erik against Todd, she was guaranteed to get to final four since their three votes would control at the next tribal council. And she at least had a shot at final three since because if either she, Erik or P.G. won the immunity idol (and Erik and P.G. have had recently great track records at winning challenges), it would be them as final three. But she stuck with her alliance, relying on her trust, though I'm not entirely sure what that means. OK, next round, if P.G. doesn't win immunity, she goes. If she does, then Denise would go. P.G.'s win would only prolong Denise's stay by one week. In either case, her alliance wouldn't be breaking their word to her by voting her out. Once the "outsiders" are gone or at least not able to be voted out, they have to vote someone off from their own alliance, and I don't recall Todd or anyone else in her alliance promising her final four or final three. With Erik out, that leaves four women and one man. I would actually like to see Todd voted out this week, so that would leave all women in the final four and beyond. That would be fun. I think this week is when the car challenge would be, so we'll find out who wins the car and subsequently, according to tradition, not win Sole Survivor. Maybe Todd can win the car as a consolation prize and then be kicked out. If the women do make final four, I'd want Courtney out next. Hmm, I'd also be ok with her going next and then Todd going the week after that. I want final three to be Amanda, Denise and P.G. I'd be ok with any of them winning, though I think it would be great if Denise ultimately won. /cs
Originally Posted By seanyoda << what is with Amanda's butt? I've noticed over the past few episodes that either during a challenge or even when they're just walking around camp or something, the area around Amanda's butt is blurred. >> Whatever it is, it must run in the family, because they blurred out her sister's butt too. << When they came back from their reward challenge, and they had chocolate on their hands that the others licked off - ewww. >> That was pretty gross, especially considering how those hands aren't clean. Still, I guess it must have been better than a mint. As for looking toward the final episode, as much as it pains me to write it, Courtney is the one person I expect to make it to the final 3. I figure that *everyone* sees her as a coat-tail rider, and thus would make a safe opponent in the final 3.
