Originally Posted By cstephens Jim's final comment was strange, attributing his being voted out to his age. Dude, it wasn't your age. It was your really injured arm that won't heal for weeks, rendering you basically useless. It was a good thing that the really sick tribe won the first camp. Can you imagine if the men were all that sick, and they still had to make it to their new camp AND build shelter? /cs
Originally Posted By itsme >>I wonder when everyone's going to find out that Gary Hogeboom used to play in the NFL. ------ I read an article on an online paper with Probst where he touched on how the girl{forget her name she is a sports talk show host} is pretty sure she knows its him and kinda always goes after him about it and he just keeps saying no not me. But he didnt say wheather he ever came clean with her or the others.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Yeah, that will be fun, to see if anyone is going to figure it out or not. It's already a little side-story to follow . Will they found out?? Who will let the secret out of the bag? Can they trust him EVER again? Found out on Tonight's episode!!!!
Originally Posted By Jafar30 I'm surprised nothing yet for last night's episode. I bet Gary's hoping that what's her name doesn't make the merge so she can rat him out again. And another thing, can we get some of these younger women to actually eat something before going on the show. A lot of them are way too skinny.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 The challenges are brutal so far. They must absolutely reek by now. No water, the muddy tug-a-war. Yikes! I'm glad Lydia made it.
Originally Posted By debtee I agree Lisann! I'm pleased they kept Lydia as Morgan had to go! I don't understand anyone turning up for Survivor and not helping around camp..Haven't they watched the earlier series, a bit dumb!!!
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<I bet Gary's hoping that what's her name doesn't make the merge so she can rat him out again.>> Oh, I hope she makes it and can continue that dramatic storyline. (Survivor's narrator voiceover) "Next week on Survivor, Gary must make the ultimate sacrifice to keep his secret away from the others after the merge--*MURDER*!! How far will he go to shut her up and which ruin will he bury her under? It's going to be a Survivor like NO other. Right before an all-new CSI. Check for local listings for stations."
Originally Posted By TomSawyer I think Gary's going to get booted as soon as people find out that he's been lying to them. He thinks being an ex-NFL player makes him some sort of big threat, but my wife just keeps calling him Hank Hill. There's an interesting little lesson to be learned about building the relationships that you need in a game like this on a foundation of lies.
Originally Posted By itsme Yea they will boot him as soon as they find out, but keep Booby Jon and Steph around cause they are such good people who have never lied before. Anyone catch Jeffs reference in the 1st show about Bobby Jon and how "he was one the best at challenges". So far I dont think he has done very well at all. I love the mind games that they play wiht the viewers with comments and editing. Im impressed that girl knew who he was cause she looks young. He was always pretty much a back up at best and hasnt played in some 12+ years.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 I agree Tom. Ok, so you were an ex-quarterback. I've seen other jocks drop like flies in years past. It take more than just being athletic to win at Survivor.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 I agree Tom. Ok, so you were an ex-quarterback. I've seen other jocks drop like flies in years past. It take more than just being athletic to win at Survivor.
Originally Posted By itsme Quarterbacks are usually the most unathletic of the skill positions. If you can see, read and throw you can get by very well. Payton Manning will tell you himself he is not that great of an athlete as far as running, jumping and the like, but he is a very good QB. If you ever remember him as a player Gary was NOT very athletic, unless they have throwing/quick thinking type challenges i dont think he really has any advantage over a few of the others.
Originally Posted By debtee ^ Thanks for the info about Gary. I'm pleased I could read above and now understand what Gary was talking about as I'm not that into Football especially American sports and did not know what NFL meant until you all are talking about it! Geez couldn't he have just said Football!lol I also do not understand why he is being all cloak and dagger about it..... so what if he played professional football??? How does that translate that he will get voted off? I would have thought the other members on his team would see him as Athletic and able to perform challenges!
Originally Posted By GrumpysWife I personally think he has a much greater opinion of what being an ex-quarterback means than any of the others will. I think many of the contestants are pretty athletic; just because he was a pro athlete years ago doesn't mean he's any stronger than some of them now. The farmer, for example, might be in really great shape from hard physical work. I think he's a little overblown about it.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Actually, I was reading about the whole 'Gary controversey' on another website and one good point was being brought up why he was keeping it a secret. It's not simply the atheletic issue that they might see as a threat (or not), its the MONEY issue too. Many people assume if you are an ex-athlete in an obviously major organization like the NFL, then you already got paid and so what are you doing on Survivor?? Of course, many people don't know that at the time he was playing, Football was one of the lowest paid professional sports you could have done ironically. VERY few sports figures were making over a million dollars a year in the 80's and since he was a lower player like guys said he was, then he probably made maybe a few hundred thousand a year. Not bad , but not exactly the tens of millions of dollars players can make today. But since most of those kids were probably still in Diapers most of the time he was playing, they probably wouldn't know all that and just assume he was paid well, good or not and don't need the money like all those waitors and bartenders Survivor is very good at getting . So, its definitely another good reason to keep it a secret....even if it's going to blow up in his face which it looks like its going to happen lol. BTW, the same website I was reading, many people there assumed the girl, Debbie, that outed him as an ex-quarterback was FED that information by someone from the show and couldn't possibly know that. I had never thought of that, but many of them are convinced that even a sportscaster (especially a young one) wouldn't be able to recognize a 3rd string not-in-the-spotlight quarterback who has aged 20 years since then right on the spot of seeing him for the first time. Most seem to have a point. One poster even put up his picture of the guy in uniform when he was playing and he looks VERY different, fuller face, no grey hair obviously and more built. Most people were saying they use to watch football back then when he was playing and could in no way have guessed who the guy was today. So, was she fed the info by the show or not? What are some of your thoughts? If she was, isn't that interferring in the process of the show?
Originally Posted By GrumpysWife IF she was fed the information, that would definately be interference-not good form. Maybe she just has a really good memory for names, and put it together from that?
Originally Posted By Lisann22 Well, thinking the money angle would be pretty naive for the other contestants and a bit unfair in my opinion because 3rd string quarterbacks don't make that much cash. LOL. No different than probably some of the people that have had their own businesses before, etc. However, your right, they'll equate it to NBA or MLB salaries and think he's super rich which I bet is not entirely the truth.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 Well, thinking the money angle would be pretty naive for the other contestants and a bit unfair in my opinion because 3rd string quarterbacks don't make that much cash. LOL. No different than probably some of the people that have had their own businesses before, etc. However, your right, they'll equate it to NBA or MLB salaries and think he's super rich which I bet is not entirely the truth.
