Originally Posted By itsme >>she was *definitely* whining more than usual.. winners don't whine, they buck up and play the game harder. ------- True, and thats part of my problem with her. Winners win, losers lose. She has almost always been on the losing team while afterwords telling everyone how much of a winner she is, no if you were a winner you would be on a winning team more often and would not have to be selfish and remind everyone its not you its everyone else.
Originally Posted By debtee <She's playing on someone else's dime as it is> I don't understand this comment?? Are you saying that she should not have been given a second chance? The producers decided to bring someone back from an earier season, if not Steph and Bobby john then someone else would have agreed. I also do not think any of the challenges have been lost due to her participation, she has tried very hard to win and I think I would be whinging as well if I'd put that much effort in and was still was not winning!
Originally Posted By hopemax I also consider that most of what we're seeing is confessionals. Which is the only time that the contestants can get away and try to decompress, get things off their chest without the other competitors hovering trying to use something to their advantage. Stephenie's "story" is that her team loses, and the producers seem to think we need to be reminded of that every 5 minutes. But I think if we were to look at any of the other competitor's tapes we would see our fair share of "whining." But seeing as that is not part of that contestant's "story" we don't see it. And since anytime Steph is talking about anything other than losing is NOT part of her story, we don't get to see it. So do I think Steph is a whiner, nope.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle I agree with Hopemax and Debtee! I don't think there's anyone who wouldn't be upset in that situation. Hopefully having won immunity this week, she'll be in better spirits for the next episode or so. I don't mind Brian, either - I don't know if I like him as a person so much, but he's quite interesting to watch! All in all, it's hard to pick a favourite in this series, none of them are that likable.
Originally Posted By Rivkah86 ok, consider this. The producers are always going for an interesting, varied show, in order to keep our attention. Since it was a normal thing to see Steph's team loose every week, I'm sure they wanted us so be even more excited over this weeks win, so they decided to exagerate the whining and complaining. I mean, I know I was all the more exctited for Steph!
Originally Posted By debtee Well I liked the twist this week.... Raph getting to sit in on tribal council and choosing immunity for the other team. I did think he would select Gary for immunity and was not surprised to see his name come out of the envelope. Bye bye Brian ( sorry Kez ) I cannot stand Judd. However I thought the tribe would keep him around for his brute strength even if it meant having to put up with his ego. I was right as he survived Margaret! It seemed to me the zoo keeper ( forgot name?) was going under the radar and from her face at tribal council does not like Judd but voted for Margaret rather then go out on a limb.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Man, that Judd rant was CLASSIC!!! Oh my god, my sides are still hurting. I kept thinking to myself, "When they won that challeng, did Judd get a shovel out of it too?" The guy just KEPT going and going. Like Margret said, Judd is his own worst enemy. It takes hardly anything to get the guy going. Honestly, personnally I would have liked to see him get the boot, BUT as a tv watcher, part of me is glad to see this idiot live another day. Part of me is kind of hoping to see him make it to the final two and see him bury himself when he's basically putting everyone down and in a shouting rant. Who MARRIED this guy?? Good episode .
Originally Posted By Labuda "Part of me is kind of hoping to see him make it to the final two and see him bury himself when he's basically putting everyone down and in a shouting rant." Ya know, I hadn't even thought of tht! Man would it be great to see him at the final two ranting at the jury when they question him... and this his utter amazement when the other person won it all! lol How much longer until the folks getting booted will be part of the jury? Another couple of weeks, right?
Originally Posted By Labuda Oh, yeah.... also. I am SOOOOOOO glad Brian is gone. Gentleman my ass! He's a slimy jerk! I actually prefer Judd to Brian - at least Judd is an ass to everyone, not just to the camera alone like Brian is.
Originally Posted By itsme I dont know if its the similar heavy accent but Judd reminds me a little of Boston Rob. I do think he will go far based on the way they are making a big deal of his attitude in the editing, I bet other then Margaret he gets along well with his tribe and its nothing like they portrayed it for this episode.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle Judd is such a loser ... but I agree kind of fun to watch! I never used to like watching the "villains", but he's just such a moron it's quite funny. I wasn't surprised they voted Margaret out instead of him, they need the strength on their side. I thought it was a little harsh to indicate that voting Margaret out would get rid of all their problems when she was only half of the fueding team and Judd was clearly the nastier one!
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle Oh wait, more from me. Has anyone else heard the rumour that if Jeff quits as host an ex-Survivor will take over? My first thought was Colby, although one magazine said it would be Andrew Savage. It's not confirmed of course, but the last rumour I heard from this magazine was that Steph and Bobby Jon would be in this season, so maybe it's accurate?
Originally Posted By cstephens I usually have to avoid this thread when I don't get a chance to watch the show the night it airs, so I was surprised that I haven't had to dodge this thread. It made me wonder if the show was that bad or if lots of other people also didn't get to watch it Thursday night. Just watched the tape, and I enjoyed the show. The reward challenge was a bit odd, and something that I don't recall them doing before. I wasn't sure that a reward of just chocolate would help (no protein really, just a sugar and caffeine high that you then just crash from), but at least they got milk and fruit too. That reward thing looked cool, but I think it would just scare the bejeesus out of me. How funny was the "pool party"? I wonder if that idea was planted at all. I don't recall anything like that happening before either. Jamie was kind of a spoil sport, though. So both Bobby Jon and Stephenie made it to the merge. I was almost rooting for Bobby Jon to be voted off, just because, and to see Steph's reaction. Having the merged tribe should definitely be interesting with all the strong personalities. /cs
Originally Posted By Labuda I just watched it last night - was surprised, like you, not to have to avoid this thread. Anyhow, I found it interesting that now they're starting to pick on the vets to some extent - I also wanna know how Amy'a REALLY gonna react when Gary is outed as a football player for real! lol It'll be interesting to see if the sportscaster lady (Danni, maybe? I forget...) survives any longer than her sohorts since she gave the other tribe chocolate pre-merge. I think Steph still has a chance to go for so long as they don't turn on her because she's a vet - she really is a strong player, despite the whiny jaunts.
Originally Posted By itsme I'll admit im losing interest mainly cause of StepheMe. There is way to much of her talking and her reactions after everything as if she is the only one out there. I Tivo it and then watch it later in the night, The last 2 weeks i have really started to fast forward though the show and watch just highlights. Its a shame cause it seems this year was very well planned out with great challenges and the like, but they are losing me for the first time.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle Wow, I must admit I really don't think the show's that Steph-heavy, but everyone is saying it is, so maybe I just haven't noticed? If anything, I think the other pesonalities aren't really as strong as they have been in previous seasons so they aren't as outrageous or noteworthy when they do speak to the camera - there's no real villains, Judd being probably the worst and still fairly tame most of the time. I used to really like Amy, but wasn't sad to see her go this week. Gary is starting to grow on me as he's keeping the quarterback-talk to a minimum. It'll be interesting to see next week's show - a late-night merge is an interesting idea!
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Wow, where is everybody??? I guess people are losing interest or just haven't posted their thoughts, but yeah it was a decent episode. Can't compare to the Judd-me-big-ape-man-you-talk-too-much-hurt-Judds-brain-man rant, but it was still good. I especially liked that scene between Amy and Gary when see said she was going to 'beat you down'. I actually was lol at that scene because I REALLY believe her. For Gary sake, he better hope he doesn't get that money because he's only going to have a few days to spend it . It was funny that Amy seem like the stereotypical female New Yorker tough cop, especially with that accent. Fun stuff . Next week looks interesting with the new merge now.