Originally Posted By TheRedhead "If a kid tries his or her hardest and gets handed back a paper heavily marked with red then he is going to be embarrassed in front of his friends." I started to reply to the other thread about the dreaded red pen, but it seemed so silly. I guess I couldn't resist a second go. I teach high school English. I make comments all over the kids' papers. And a few years ago I changed from red pen to green pen. And it has nothing to do with me hurting their feelings. Red means stop. It's the color of danger or warnings. A kid sees a paper covered in red and it goes beyond embarrassment. He will think that he has done so much wrong that fixing his mistakes is insurmountable. And he ignores the red and shuts down. But here's the thing: I give positive comments on their papers too. I give suggestions that are neither negative or positive. But when they are all presented in one big red lump, the kid tunes out immediately because he thinks that those are all errors. That is what red means. It takes me hours to grade papers. I want kids to read my comments. And experts have shown that students are less willing to look at feedback on an assessment if it's written in red. I listen to experts. I do think the coddling of OLDER children is a bit of a problem. When college professors are getting calls from parents arguing about a grade or calling their kid in sick, something's askew.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip If veggies are served at a Super Bowl party they should be sitting on top of a pizza!
Originally Posted By velo >>Red means stop. It's the color of danger or warnings. A kid sees a paper covered in red and it goes beyond embarrassment. He will think that he has done so much wrong that fixing his mistakes is insurmountable. And he ignores the red and shuts down. But here's the thing: I give positive comments on their papers too. I give suggestions that are neither negative or positive. But when they are all presented in one big red lump, the kid tunes out immediately because he thinks that those are all errors. That is what red means.<< This! There have been many studies that show this to be true. And, as the mother of 3 and a former English TA - I can emphatically say that I HATE red pens!
Originally Posted By ecdc >>I teach high school English.<< English teachers are my favorite; they're unsung in this era of lazy texting and shoddy grammar. This editor thanks you
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I teach high school English.<< Awesome! Please know that your appreciated! ;-)
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "Awesome! Please know that your appreciated! ;-)" I'm going to chalk that one up to irony or faulty auto-correct.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "English teachers are my favorite; they're unsung in this era of lazy texting and shoddy grammar. This editor thanks you " I agree so much! I'm so happy that I have a pretty good foundation in English. I have recently gone back to school to get a degree and my college English classes have been great for me. My latest professor was the absolute best I've had, and he also would write TONS of feedback on papers, and it was both positive and negative. I loved it. It helped me so much to figure out what to change, or what to keep.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I'm going to chalk that one up to irony or faulty auto-correct.<< Or the winky at the end of the sentence. You don't think I would make that kind of misteak on purpose, do you? ;-) again.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan If I had a red pen right now, I'd write: But this is the topic about Taco Bell vs. Veggies. ; )
Originally Posted By skinnerbox For TheRedhead: <a href="http://www.prettygoodgoods.org/products/63771-poetry-lover-s-gift-set-77-love-sonnets-signed-english-majors-poem-t-shirt" target="_blank">http://www.prettygoodgoods.org...-t-shirt</a> 8^D
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Please don't go all Palin-y on us. << Speaking of vegetables .... ( <------- runs away)
Originally Posted By barboy ///Speaking of vegetables ..../// If only we were so blessed; but NOOOOOO------we get one terribly animated and omnipresent malevolent force.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 In related wussie news, there were some groups that were upset over a Volkswagen Superbowl ad which features a white guy talking in a Jamaican accent. You know who's not upset? Jamaican's, they love it. <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/dispatches/2013/01/31/super-bowl-jamaica-tourism-vw-ad/1879935/" target="_blank">http://www.usatoday.com/story/...1879935/</a>
Originally Posted By barboy Some people were born stupid and will remain that way until the end. Anyone who has a problem with a white holding a Jamaican accent should understan that it happens. I know first hand from back in the 90's. I was in Jamaica(10 days of Hedonism 2 Of course in Negril) and met a local white teen when I ventured over to Montego who was selling diving trappings like knives, masks and fins-----dude was whiter than Mark Maguire or Larry Byrd, freckled something good with reddish blonde hair. I could barely understand him when he spoke English due to his native accent. At first I thought he was a hold over turist........until he spoke and interacted with 2 other locals. Dude was pure Jamaican
