Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA >>People go see things that remind them of the last movie they enjoyed.<< I don't go see movies for that reason. Maybe that's why I don't go see very many movies. "Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull' felt like a movie that was made by committee -- it had lots of 'let's do this because people will want to see that' (Marion Ravenwood's re-introduction for example) As a result, that movie sucked pretty hard. In a perfect world, I would see a movie without ever having seen a preview for the movie. Last time I did, it was 15+ years ago -- a screening for 'The Super' starring Joe Pesce. In today's world, that's damn near impossible.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<I think the Disney rennaisance probably started with The Rescuers Down Under>> For me, it was "Great Mouse Detective" that was the start. RDU had its good points but seemed like a little step backwards for me. To each his own.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>I also hated the songs - completely unmemorable (I don't get Lasseter's obsession with Randy Newman AT ALL).<< I really don't like Randy Newman one bit, but I loved the PATF music. It completely captured the spirit of New Orleans throughout the film, while carrying the emotional arc of the story. I've honestly hated everything else that he's done (at least that I've recognized as being his), but this one was very different. The style of music was a departure from Newman's usual stuff, and it was a departure from the typical musical style as well. Yet somehow it just worked for me. And using Dr John for the opening scene just made it that much better.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: We didn't particularly care for the songs from Princess & the Frog either. They were kind of forgettable for us. Randy Newman's songs for Toy Story were fairly good though.
Originally Posted By basil fan I thought the songs from Princess & the Frog were much better than for Toy Story, and pleasantly so. And I LOVE the egg-stealing scene in RDU--one of Disney's funniest ever!
Originally Posted By basil fan Re: Flynn. Just like to say that I don't see his change from prince to thief as an attempt to de-fairytale the story. More an attempt to avoid the boring-prince syndrome by giving Rapunzel something different and interesting for her true love. A thief is just a logical choice for a man entering an isolated tower. That's my take on the whole controversy anyhow.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>I really don't like Randy Newman one bit, but I loved the PATF music.<< Me too!
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: I don't see how anybody could think a Disney prince is boring. If they do, they obviously haven't kept company with one--yet. I've kept company with every single one of them and--trust me on this--NONE of them are boring!!!
Originally Posted By basil fan Cinderella's Prince Charming: trophy husband. Sherlock Holmes <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/sherlock/holmes.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/...mes.html</a>
Originally Posted By mawnck I recall some reviewer - I think it might have been Leonard Maltin - noting RE: Sleeping Beauty that when the prince's horse is more interesting than the prince, you have a problem.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Yes, but you know how certain critics love to project cynical ideas about things, making claims that make you wonder if they even saw the same movie everybody else did. Prince Phillip is actually the most interesting prince this side of Prince Eric. ORWEN: Cinderella's prince wasn't given as much to do simply because the animators back then weren't as experienced at drawing the human male form as they later came to be.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>but you know how certain critics love to project cynical ideas about things, << Leonard Maltin? About DISNEY movies?
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: It's possible. But we're not sure Leonard was the one who said that about Prince Phillip. We do know that he has gone on record as praising Sleeping Beauty over-all.
Originally Posted By basil fan Just for the record, I love Phillip. He's got a lot more personality than his predecessors. And I've always kinda liked Prince Charming, even if he is just eye candy.
