Originally Posted By Labuda Funny you should have made that post, dramamama! When I first joined LP (over 5 years ago now), I *hated* TDLFAN. Then, after 6 months or a year, the little lightbulb went on over my head and suddenly I understood him and his point of view. Now, I consider him a friend, and highlights of most every WDW trip I make include hanging out with him, be it for a few moments or a few hours. He has such an amazing breadth of Disney knoiwledge and is genuinely a good, kind person.
Originally Posted By kennect I guess I should beg forgiveness for living in Atlanta and liking Grace Jones....So TDL has a great deal of wealth when it comes to Disney park knowledge...Big deal...I like TDL and like giving him a hard time just like he does to others...Don't take my posts so seriously....He loves to play rude but doesn't like when others do with him...
Originally Posted By mickey_ring Sounds like the Comedy Club would've been a better fit over at Studios. What did you think of Timekeeper?
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 I enjoyed Timekeeper, love circlevision stuff, I can fly, but my feet are still on solid ground.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>For all that TDLFAN says about WDW they should be in bankruptcy by now.. But park attendance continues to rise as does the stock... and profits also..<< Goes to show most tourists at WDW do not care about the product as much as some of us do. They are after all.."on vacation". >>I don't take what TDLFAN says with a grain of salt... it's just one persons opinion... and I think it stinks... but thats just MY opinion...<< Yes, and your opinion pixieduster does not matter to the "suits" as much as mine would, simply because they know they already have you grabbed by the galls since you seem to accept any type of quality they throw at you, be good or bad quality. So that makes you the quintessential Disney sucker. NOT ME. I love Disney for what the name stands for, and NOT for what rides they offer at the parks.
Originally Posted By kennect Timekeeper? For me personally a thousand times better than the revamp Escape attraction across from where it stood...Whether the attraction was repeatable is one thing...But think of the effort that went into the film for it....Very creative, very original...
Originally Posted By TDLFAN You know...I Still preferred the original version of that show as presented at DLP and TDL, "Le Visionarium". "TimeKeeper" was an obnoxious Robin Williams vehicle, raped with scenes from the American frontier. The original was a much better and cohesive presentation.
Originally Posted By kennect TDL, I take it the film was the same but how else did the attraction differ? Or maybe I am wrong...Was the film different? Clue us in...I always liked the film...No Robim Williams fan here, btw...But to me it was a nice escape to enjoy a few minutes watching a nice film and getting out of the heat....It seems a lot of the attractions at WDW are based around "the beating the heat factor" at certain times of the year...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Robin Williams is an acquired taste. You either find him to be one of the funniest men alive ... like I do. Or you don't like him.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I take it the film was the same but how else did the attraction differ?<< The film was mostly the same but not entirely. The original film had more european locales...at one point we saw Gerard Depardeau (sp?) next to the concorde at CDG Airport, then Mr. Verne would be in a balloon over the Red Square in Russia, in a middle of a wedding where he would accidentally kidnap the newlyweds and transport them into another era... to name a few of the scenes that were cut for the Timekeeper. William's version had a couple of scenes from the US that were shot for the MK version, and were exclusive to that version only. Not seen in Paris or Tokyo.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Robin Williams is an acquired taste. You either find him to be one of the funniest men alive ... like I do. Or you don't like him. < like any over the top comedian at times he can grate on you, but I saw him do stand up a few years ago at the Chicago Theatre, and it only confirmed to me that he is one of the quick wits around... I thoroughly enjoyed the show
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn OK, so... there are Monsters in the future? There aren't monsters today? I wonder what this space will occupy 5 years from now
Originally Posted By kennect OK, One has to wonder...Now this big new attraction is almost ready to open what is next for the MK? Just kidding....
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct << I personally didn't care for him at first either...but he grows on you. Look, you can't ever just take whatever ANYONE says and just accept it without adding your own experience, BUT I have found that TDL is trustworthy. Honestly, I never thought I would ever write that... >>> Agreed. Add me to the list. It took me aahile to "see the light" and I TOTALLY get him now. It also helps I have been to WDW (several time since '72), DLR (3 times) and DLRP (7 times). The more I see the other resorts the more I am disappointed at the upkeep of WDW. TDLFAN has a wonderful unique perspective because he sees all this places on a regular basis. He is a "big picture" view. It is in-excusable that WDW has those awful parades for soooooo long where as the other parks switch it up. Having the assumsption "we" don't notice is wrong. "We" notice. TDLFAN is a wonderful person and he is accurate in many ways. He is very caring and puts himself out for others - even people he doesn't really know. He will not tolarate bigots or bad behavior and calls people on it. He has a lot of self-respect and will defend it to the end - and rightfully so .. knowing him now, I would stand next to him and defend him too. Bottom line - the management needs to empower the creative people more. I support the talent and it seems they have been too squelched by managemnt. You know what makes me get to the parks and book a week? The way my sense of "play" is triggered and I am transported into these wonderful environments. They make the impossible REAL. I nned to "FEEL" the space and the talent does just that - and NOT with Chester and Hester. I suppport TDLFAN.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<It makes me sad to think that we'll probably skip this whole area of the MK. Whatever happened to the technology that I love?>> Please tell me when this wondrous age of Tomorrowland was. It must have been prior to 1991; because I've never seen it any better than it is right now. Which is not to say it's great. During the time I’ve been visiting, Tomorrowland has had three consistently great attractions... The People Mover (TTA), Space Mountain and Carousel of Progress. The rest of the land has ALWAYS been filler... something to give people a place to sit in air conditioned comfort. When I first visited, Mission to Mars was where Stitch now is. Stitch is lousy. But Mission to Mars was worse. At least Stitch has a fairly sophisticated animatronic. Delta Dreamflight was where Buzz is now. That was certainly a pleasant enough attraction. It seems that I probably liked it more than anyone else at WDW though, because I was always about the only person riding the thing. Popularity is not necessarily the best judge of an attraction, but Buzz seems to be far more popular (and more entertaining) than any of the previous omnimover shows were. Which brings us to the space where the Comedy Club now is. That space has presented a number (5-6?) of films, none of which were probably very good because none of them lasted very long. American Journeys was playing during our first WDW visit, and we chose not to see it so I can't give it a review. The Timekeeper was the final occupant of this space, and I thought it was a very well done show. Robin William's narration was great, the animatronic was very interesting and the film was beautiful. Unfortunately there were probably no more than 20 people in the auditorium any time I saw it. So there is my take on things. Tomorrowland may not be great today, but please tell me the time when it actually was. Unlike Disneyland's Tomorrowland which actually did have a Golden Era, the one at the MK has always been pretty much what it is now.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 "Delta Dreamflight was where Buzz is now. That was certainly a pleasant enough attraction. It seems that I probably liked it more than anyone else at WDW though, because I was always about the only person riding the thing." Know what you mean, restful, entertaining and enjoyable. Before that it was Eastern Airlines: If you had wings. Same ride, different sponsor.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost American Journeys was playing during our first WDW visit, and we chose not to see it so I can't give it a review. >>>The Timekeeper was the final occupant of this space, and I thought it was a very well done show. Robin William's narration was great, the animatronic was very interesting and the film was beautiful. Unfortunately there were probably no more than 20 people in the auditorium any time I saw it.<<< I did see the original 360 movie but frankly, I don't remember it. I also liked Timekeeper, not so much because it was a fascinating show, in and of itself, but, because of the Robin Williams connection. He remained somewhat subdued, for him, and the person that programed the "robot" to his narration should be given an award for capturing Robin's movements and gestures so exactly. What I don't understand is how people thought it was bad before they ever saw it. There are thousands of new people every day at WDW. How do they know not to go to it? I've heard, because you had to stand! How did they know that before they got there? I thought it was humorous and entertaining. Then again, I liked WoM and Horizons too! Where are they now? I don't hold out much hope for this new one because it has the same problem that all the rest of them have. Location, Location, Location! It is the best hidden attraction in the place. I remember when the shut down Timekeeper all they had to do was put a planter and a bench in front of the entrance and it all but disappeared. If you didn't know where it was you would never have questioned it. The angle that it sat was more visable only to just those traveling toward the hub not from it, and then it wasn't that obvious that it was an attraction.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Horizons and World of Motion. Liked those, now that I'm older I'd probably like them even better. Why do so many changes have to be to thrill rides? I know they want to attract the younger crowd. But must they forget the people who remember it when....?
