Originally Posted By Disneybrad We are! Out Nemo cast memebers are being trained to tell anyone we see holding a camera in active picutre taking postion, No flash, it is just that 99% of guest ignore the warning, so many have already stoped bothering.
Originally Posted By ChiMike Brad, it is great to hear that ops is following suit and issuing statements on Seas too. It's just too bad they aren't more proactive in enforcing the rule. .. And instead just laying down.
Originally Posted By ChiMike And I am sure that has more to do with management than a frontline CM wanting to tangle with the guests.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Mike, you must understand that if a guest came up to Brad and punched him in the face because he told the man's kid politely to not take photos or not stand on the sculpture/planter outside the pavilion, Disney officials would not allow security to be called. If Brad turned around and dialed 911 and got the real authorities involved, he'd likely be looking for work at Universal the next morning. WDW believes guests should be able to do anything and that they are always right UNLESS they have a real, legit complaint. This is how legal has forced them to operate. Of course in Brad's case, it would be nice if his namesake who is VP of the park showed a little testicular fortitude and cracked a whip on bad guest behavior, but it won't happen.
Originally Posted By ChiMike ^ I agree. Another well worded post! At the last minute it dawned on my what I was saying and I tried to clear it up. To go back, I am glad that the ride operators are at least issuing the spiel.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>Of course in Brad's case, it would be nice if his namesake who is VP of the park showed a little testicular fortitude and cracked a whip on bad guest behavior, but it won't happen.<< Maybe there is hope for the future since guests are being told they will be escorted to leave EPCOT at the Listen to the Land ride if they jump ship half way thru the ride.
Originally Posted By Dlmusic <<Mike, you must understand that if a guest came up to Brad and punched him in the face because he told the man's kid politely to not take photos or not stand on the sculpture/planter outside the pavilion, Disney officials would not allow security to be called.>> This is not true. I worked at WDW and security WAS called when Cast Members were assaulted. <<If Brad turned around and dialed 911 and got the real authorities involved, he'd likely be looking for work at Universal the next morning.>> If you dailed 911 you would reach Reedy Creek anyway. Now if you used your cell phone you'd get Orlando. BTW, a Cast Member also did this once and was NOT fired.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<This is not true. I worked at WDW and security WAS called when Cast Members were assaulted.>> Yes, it is true. Maybe not in every case, but in most. I have done a lot of research and spoken to many current and former CMs. There are incidents EVERY day where CMs are verbally and physically abused by guests and managers refuse to bring security in on it because they don't want to have the company face litigation. I know of incidents were CMs were beaten, spit it, kicked, called the most vile of names ... and the guests walked away with freebies and the CMs often walked away with reprimands. <<If you dailed 911 you would reach Reedy Creek anyway. Now if you used your cell phone you'd get Orlando. BTW, a Cast Member also did this once and was NOT fired.>> Once I believe ... heck maybe even twice ... but that's about it. WDW does NOT want police actions in its parks and resorts. Even when it is warranted.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 One other point ... I feel WDW needs a ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY for guests putting their hands on CMs in anger without having been attacked by said CMs. Someone does that, they immediately are escorted out of the park. They don't leave quietly? Call in the police and let them leave their magical WDW park in cuffs.
Originally Posted By pheneix For what its worth, I saw Orange County Sheriff's department carry out two guests in handcuffs from a Disney park the other day. Sad part is that Disney security had been chasing them for quite a bit, and that was BEFORE they jumped the turnstyles and ran into the theme park.
