TDLFAN's Everest Review

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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    I like trippy better than roadie.
     
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    Originally Posted By Inspector 57


    Listen to your voice mail before opening your email.
     
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    Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney

    "you would think so on first blush, but since Lewis has been around a while, I believe he's not really trolling, he very much believes what he types."

    Nah. I just think he's a very bored person that every so often turns up with such ridiculous gushing praise of WDW that even the PR and marketing people there would laugh.

    He's there to push buttons. Plain and simple.

    I followed his crap with amusement before I ever posted here.

    He's just trolling here to get people's ires raised.
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    Sounds just like me..
     
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    Originally Posted By ssWEDguy

    >> to get people's ires raised. <<

    I'd like to have my ires raised.
     
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    Originally Posted By Lewis Goofy

    <<but more importantly, OK, I've got to ask Lewis, please give me your rating on the Pooh Playground.<<


    The Pooh Playground is very well done and is a nice addition to Fantasyland. It is themed well and fits right in next to the Pooh attraction and every time I walk past it I see nothing but families having a great time. My rating a B.
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    >>I'd like to have my ires raised.<<

    Time to get together at the Mk soon.
     
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    Originally Posted By WDWtechie

    I rate it a A-. I think that it is a great attraction and really shows off Disney making little kids happy.
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    I was brought to my attention that EE was opened today to guests for previews... So if you are interested in riding.. you may want to head out to DAK and seeif the ride is operating... but being a sneak preview, keep in mind..it may or may not be open once you get there so don't be disappointed.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< Oh pardon, *Economy* class. But I get the feeling some of them Texans have oil pumps in their backwards and can afford better, such as 7 glorious nights at the Miracosta. Right Super "dry"? >>>

    Hey, in January and February, the Mira Costa is 40% off the peak prices. I don't have an oil pump in my back yard, but I am an airline miles hoarder, so I've been fortunate to be able to fly in the front of the bus these last few times.

    <<< Whoa, SuperDry.... you're a Texan??? >>>

    Yep. Not a native, though.
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    >>I am an airline miles hoarder<<

    It's what we call in the business an "Upgrade W.." never mind.
     
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    Originally Posted By ssWEDguy

    >> Time to get together at the Mk soon. <<

    Would like to. A QA type walk through would be the ticket.

    Let me know when you can do such a thing. You can use our booking agent Labuda to forward messages.
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< It's what we call in the business an "Upgrade W.." never mind. >>>

    Is that similar to what some CM's call "passholes?"

    I can assure you that I'm nothing but gracious and appreciative both in the airport and on board. Plus, on my primary carrier, the flight manifest does not list the type of ticket I'm flying on, so the flight crew has no way of knowing who is on a full fare, who got upgraded, and who is on a free ticket. All they know is the person's status level, plus most importantly an internal indicator as to how important that passenger is to the airline's bottom line overall.
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    How would you know for sure the crew manifest doesn't list you as an "upgrade"? Just curious, because that manifest is priviledged information that we safeguard for our passengers' safety and privacy.
     
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    Originally Posted By vbdad55

    <The Pooh Playground is very well done and is a nice addition to Fantasyland. It is themed well and fits right in next to the Pooh attraction and every time I walk past it I see nothing but families having a great time. My rating a B.<

    <I rate it a A-. I think that it is a great attraction and really shows off Disney making little kids happy.<

    You have either got to be related or are just trying to rile me up. That piece of 5th rate garbage has as much business being in Fantasyland as a McDonalds or Burger King.....

    Under themed, poorly thought out, and does nothing but make the most expensive per square foot playground on the face of the earth a place for .....................


    you know what, I feel my first ADMIN coming so I'll stop

    my rating

    F -
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< How would you know for sure the crew manifest doesn't list you as an "upgrade"? Just curious, because that manifest is priviledged information that we safeguard for our passengers' safety and privacy. >>>

    Well, I don't know with certainty, especially since what was true yesterday may not be true today. Having said that, I'm reasonably certain that if the policy of my primary carrier changed in this regard, I would become aware of it in short order.

    And I do appreciate when airline personnel protect passenger information, both from a safety and a privacy standpoint. I've noticed a dramatic improvement in this in the past few years. For example, I never see a flight manifest casually posted in the galley like I used to. In my business (non aviation related), I make it a point to protect my customers' information, sometimes to the point of ridicule from co-workers.

    I can't tell you how I have access to knowledge about the flight manifest - it's privileged information :). I only say this half-way in jest, as if one were overly concerned about such things, one would not want me to post about how to know anything about the flight manifest or what's on it for fear that it might be misused.

    I will say that what I post here is either stuff that was made available to the public by airline personnel in a general manner, or stuff that I figured out on my own that I reasonably estimate a bad guy could also figure out if they flew a lot. I would never post or otherwise share anything that was given to me in confidence (whether it be by Non-Discosure Agreement, government involvement, or personal connections).

    Also, I need to point out that the details of what's on the manifest and what's not is very specific to each carrier and varies greatly between carriers. There's going to be a few obvious things. I know of several other things that would be listed on the manifest, and can take educated guesses at what else might be there.

    There are two carriers that I have slightly more information on beyond guesswork: for premium cabins, one lists the reason the passenger is seated in that cabin, and the other does not. The one that does not list the reason for premium cabin seating does list two general indicators as to the passenger's value to the airline from a business perspective, but no specific information on why they're seated there for that particular flight.

    I much prefer the second method. It ensures that a passenger that is generally a good customer of the airline gets treated as such even when they are flying on an occasional free ticket or upgrade, whereas the first method permits crew to treat passengers differently (sometimes on purpose, sometimes unconsciously) depending on the passenger's ticket for that particular flight.

    I have to say that I've always found myself treated well inflight, even when I'm flying on carriers where I know the crew knows I'm on a free ticket. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that I appreciate the service they provide and don't project an attitude of entitlement - I think crew for the most part pick up on this immediately.
     
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    Originally Posted By TDLFAN

    For the record.. Regardless what fare my customers paid, or whether they are upgraded into a business or 1st class cabin, has no bearing on how a passenger should be treated. Everyone seated in Business or First class gets treated in the same manner or fashion across the board, regardless of fare paid or upgrades. The fact that we know who paid the right fare or who is upgraded makes no difference. You are still going to get the same service and attention everyone gets within that class of service..
     
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    Originally Posted By ssWEDguy

    Wow. How the heck did a "TDLFAN's Everest Review" topic get into the details of flight manifest content?
     
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    Originally Posted By SuperDry

    <<< For the record.. Regardless what fare my customers paid, or whether they are upgraded into a business or 1st class cabin, has no bearing on how a passenger should be treated. Everyone seated in Business or First class gets treated in the same manner or fashion across the board, regardless of fare paid or upgrades. The fact that we know who paid the right fare or who is upgraded makes no difference. You are still going to get the same service and attention everyone gets within that class of service.. >>>

    I'm glad to hear it. But this is not true on all carriers or with all crew. I'm personally familiar with a situation where someone that has in the past traveled on a $12,000 int'l paid first class ticket was told by a flight attendant on a domestic flight on the same carrier that had been upgraded that they can't expect to get a second juice quickly, "not for the fare you paid." It could be that they had received a recent union communnication that the deep discount fares are what is killing the industry - who knows? Do you have any idea how much damage a comment like that can cause with someone that the week before paid $12,000 for a flight on the same carrier? When the crew has access to this information, it's inevitable that for some crew on some days, it's going to affect passenger service. Just my opinion.

    It doesn't take too many situations like this to run off a good customer. This was on the carrier that I separately knew put the ticket type on the manifest. They also happen to be one that's in bankruptcy or claimed to be near bankruptcy.

    The carrier that I'm aware of that does not put the ticket type on the manifest (but does put two indicators as to how important the customer is overall to the carrier) happens to be one of the ones that's performing relatively well financially. This is but one of many things they do well, and shows that they have a group of really smart people in a back room somewhere that think these things out. I find these "human factors" things fascinating, and it's part of what I do in my job.

    Of course, I'm posting this from the point of view of an interested party from outside the industry, and as a passenger. Alright - enough of this subject for me.

    <<< Wow. How the heck did a "TDLFAN's Everest Review" topic get into the details of flight manifest content? >>>

    What? You think we're "off-topic"? Why do you say so? :) I guess it's the topic starter's perogative to go off topic, and you'll notice that everything I've said has been in response to something the topic starter said to me. We're just having a little conversation here.
     

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