Originally Posted By DlandDug >> Is it wookframe construction...<< Wookframe: built by Chewbacca and friends...?
Originally Posted By mawnck X - The news I'm getting from NHK sounds really bad. They're giving instructions to people within a 30km radius to stay inside and how to decontaminate themselves if they've been outside. Are you OK? Sure hope so.
Originally Posted By Mr X We're okay unless they're lying. We're over 200km from there. However, I'm keeping a close watch on the situation and we'll bail if necessary.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I'm keeping a close watch on the situation and we'll bail if necessary.<< Good - See that you do!
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Yeah, you know X, you and I aren't exactly friends on LP, but if you've ever given thought to getting out of there, this might just be the time to act on that.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Hurricane Andrew had nowhere near the human toll of Japan's earthquake, but the disruption and damage to homes, businesses and infrastructure was massive. 750,000 people were ordered to leave their homes and 117,000 homes were destroyed or sustained major damage. WDW, 250 miles away, did not close for one day.
Originally Posted By SuperDry RoadTrip, I was going to say that your comments were insensitive. But I think a better word is uninformed: - Hurricanes are totally different type of disaster than earthquakes. The Japan earthquake has directly projected damage to TDR, even though it's 200+ km away from the epicenter. Did Hurricane Andrew directly damage WDW? - The Sendai earthquake continues to have aftershocks, which are easily felt at the resort itself, and will likely continue for some time. There are all kinds of things that need to be taken into consideration before the parks can fully open: affects on ride systems while in use, affects on performers (imagine the Zed tightrope walkers during an aftershock), and so on. Did Andrew cause such direct physical effects to WDW for weeks after the initial strike? - The shaking that happened at the time was strong enough that it requires a complete inspection of the facilities before they can safely open. This includes ride systems that may need minor adjustments due to slight displacement of various parts and sensors. Did Andrew cause any such disruption at WDW? - WDW is unique among Disney resorts in that it has its own on-site electricity generating station. I don't mean as a backup - it literally has its own power company, power plant, and grid. Although it also buys power externally, it could probably operate the theme parks solely with electricity generated on-site. TDR must rely on the public power grid in Tokyo, which is under rolling blackouts until the situation stabilizes. You're right to say that the devastation some 200km away in Sendai need not directly affect TDR operation, but you seem to be completely discounting the direct affects the earthquake is having at the resort itself.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Yes, TDR is closing because it suffered minor damage. Once the damage is repaired, it should reopen. I'm not sure why we are making this so complicated.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Yes, TDR is closing because it suffered minor damage. Once the damage is repaired, it should reopen. I'm not sure why we are making this so complicated*** It's a damn site more complicated than you're making it out to be. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you haven't read my latest posts, but if you have you'll know that the city of Urayasu is in bad shape (and in no way comparable to the nearby Tokyo situation which isn't so bad at all), and that the national defense force has commandeered DisneySea as a base of operations as well as a water source for the city. Now, you'll probably say something like "well, they can open TDL at least", and my reply would be "how magical a "Disney Day" can you have when tanks and trucks are rolling down the street carrying water and supplies from DisneySea and the power is going out all over the place and the trains aren't running (yes, even now the Keiyo line is experiencing major problems), and the parking lot is a swamp, and half of the employees are too distracted to work (I've been to MANY markets and convenience stores and other shops in my travels and NOBODY is able to act "normally", it's more of an "in this together" vibe which would be TOTALLY inappropriate for a TDR cast member and shouldn't be expected of them at this time in any case!), and nuclear radiation is a major worry... Minor damage my ass. You have no clue what's going on here. Again, I'm just going to suggest you drop the subject. It's entirely up to you, but I for one am getting pretty sick of your making a molehill out of this mountain we're going through right now.
Originally Posted By Mr X SuperDry, thank you SO much for your post number 29, you illustrate very clearly some of the things we're going through right now (even up to this minute, in fact), and I appreciate the rationality very much! As far as comparing this to other disasters, every situation is different. I can't say much about other disasters because the only other one I've been in the middle of directly was tornadoes in Florida and I happened to sleep through the entire thing (I woke up to find Kissimmee in tatters, but I was blissfully unaware of what was happening). As for this one, ALL I can say is that everyone I've met and talked to are doing their best, and everyone is concerned but trying to keep hopeful, and NOONE is worried about amusement parks right now.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***WDW, 250 miles away, did not close for one day*** Was WDW being used as an emergency water supply via draining the lakes? Because that's what's happening here right now.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros After a hurricane, the last thing that most places need is gray water (stuff for toilets, irrigation, etc). There is usually water all over the place, but just nothing that can be used for drinking. (Not to mention that Florida is a swamp and full of water all the time) I get what you were going for, but again, it's another one of those differences between the two catastrophes. I can't imagine what it's like to be in Japan right now, but I think that TDR is doing the right thing by staying closed until things get sorted out, and people actually want to spend time at the parks. Right now, the focus is getting everything back up and running, and it should be. Once that happens, there may be demand for people to go to a theme park. For now, I suspect that it's just not even on the radar of most people.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "Minor damage my ass. You have no clue what's going on here. Again, I'm just going to suggest you drop the subject. It's entirely up to you, but I for one am getting pretty sick of your making a molehill out of this mountain we're going through right now." The physical damage to TDR is minor. TDR has said this. There is no serious damage. Clearly, if the SDF is using TDS as a source of water, then they can't open. My point was that it should open when it is ready to do so. It is clearly not ready.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones But this idea that one shouldn't care about the resort out of some respect for the tragedy is absurd. Someone mentioned on Twitter the day of the quake that "an 8.9 earthquake just hit Japan and people are worried about Tokyo Disneyland??" I told him, "But Tokyo Disneyland is full of people, you moron." After hearing the news that the people at TDR were generally safe, it is natural to worry about non-human life and then other things one may care about. In the face of disaster, caring about the economy and the arts is not absurd.
Originally Posted By Mr X The Arts? WTF!? Seriously dude, I'm starting to hate you now. Keep saying your piece if you must, but it's becoming redundant and sickening to say the least. ***But this idea that one shouldn't care about the resort out of some respect for the tragedy is absurd*** NO, worrying about the status of a couple of amusement parks in the midst of such a tragedy is absurd. But clearly you don't see that.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "NO, worrying about the status of a couple of amusement parks in the midst of such a tragedy is absurd. But clearly you don't see that." Are the aftershocks giving you brain damage? You are obsessing over the parks and posting non-stop about them. Earlier today I was delighted to see a serious of photos that showed rescue forces taking a dog that was chained up out of the water. But then again, some would say that I am a monster for caring more about dogs than humans. Doesn't really matter to me, though.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: You have so much to deal with, MR. X, duckling. Don't let those who fail to understand your point discourage you. My sisters and I fully understand your point that theme parks are the lowest of priorities right now and we agree with that. You and your wife deserve all the support you can get. Just know you are cared about in Morva, along with many other here in the Laughing Place Pond. ORWEN: If there is any way you can move to a safer place, we hope you will. ORGOCH: Where's a safe place on Earth these days?
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones With $4.5 billion in revenue for fiscal year 2010, the Oriental Land Company and the status of their two insignificant parks are pretty damn important. That money is taken in as sales, which are paid as wages to employees and contracts to those hired to build, design and maintain the resort facilities. It's easy to look at corporations as faceless and greedy, but they are ultimately composed of people who rely on the business to make a living. This is serious stuff.
