Originally Posted By Mr X ***But it all works. Even the lack of sidewalks*** Well, I wouldn't go THAT far. The weirdest thing about the lack of sidewalks is the way they positioned the benches, seems rather thoughtless to place them ALL THE WAY up to the "curb", so that folks sitting there completely ruin any semblance of an illusion by having their feet planted firmly in the street! Yucky, bad show right there (and sort of furthers the whole patchwork quilt effort of the original designers, who apparently didn't put a lot of heart into the place).
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<It doesn't effect sight lines? You can see the Castle?>> Yes, you can see the Castle. It just doesn't dominate as MK's does after the deforestation of 2003-05 took place. It is revealed slowly as it should. Much classier. Obscured a bit by the Christmas tree in the middle of the World Bazaar, but again, not in any real sense. <<Or is it like those pesky TREES!?!? ;-) Speaking of trees... How are those in Tokyo? >> I was going to get into that down the road, but the park has lots of mature beautiful trees, especially in the lands you would expect them ... no 400-pounders in ECVs with dangling pin lanyards and turkey legs requiring 'expressways' to be carved out of the park, though!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>Don't correct your elders who actually LIVED it, EE! ... The Swan Boats were running in 1985 because I rode them. Specifically, I rode them twice on Easter Sunday (before dining at the Contemporary) and I even have a photo taken on them. They actually stopped running in '86. ... Were you like minus-5 years old at the time? ;-)<< I knew you wouldn't get tripped up by that. ;-) >>>I can pracitcally guarantee that isn't it at all.<<< Hm. So, totally unique or something hellishly generic. Knowing Tokyo, I have hope... But still....
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I was going to get into that down the road, but the park has lots of mature beautiful trees, especially in the lands you would expect them ... no 400-pounders in ECVs with dangling pin lanyards and turkey legs requiring 'expressways' to be carved out of the park, though!<<< Sounds nice. How about the hub? Isn't it quite barren? (Save for those planters like our hub?)
Originally Posted By Mr X Barren? <a href="http://f.hatena.ne.jp/reachan/20090101145818" target="_blank">http://f.hatena.ne.jp/reachan/...01145818</a>
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ Probably not the best word for it... It has trees, but it's not overly foliated, or under foliated, like ours has been. Looks nice and open, though.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "Restrooms. We take them for granted, but as anyone (but usually Leo) will tell you, they can be a most magical part of a Disney parks visit. And TDL AND TDS have the worst restrooms of ALL Disney resorts around the world. They are almost all universally small (seeing a line of about 70 women waiting at the Tomorrowland Terrace facilities one night around 8 p.m. made me cringe at what happens when the parks are packed), they have the worst soap in the Disney theme park empire, they have no paper towels and one or two hand dryers (and not the airblades either). That likely means hygiene issues and guarantees people walking around with wet hands. I don't get this ... maybe it's something lost in translation, but I don't think so." Did you NOT see the three shells?!? You know those crazy Japs - ahead of us in EVERYTHING!!! : D
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "Are there any barriers to prevent land leaking into land, or is it just turn a corner and that's it?" In some cases it isn't even "turn a corner" - it's like the HM is sitting right next to(read IN)Fantasyland and IIRC(I was last there in '01), right NEXT TO IASW! I still LOVED the park though!
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "Gotta ask... 1971/1983 Tomorrowland in 2010. How does that work? Doesn't it look dated?" I don't care. As I mentioned on here a LONG time ago - having been a Disney park obsessive since I was about three and not able to visit until I was thirty(long after the lovely white US TLs had vanished), it was WONDERFUL to see the TL from my View Master youth. It TRULY felt like TL for me. I was SO GLAD I got to see it!!!
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "***In the late 80's I had a CM who everyday would write up the plane projection that flew across the sky over the city of tomorrow on Wedway was out. I had never seen the plane in all the years I had been there and it wasnt on our checklist, but everyday she wrote it up. She was insistant that there was a plane effect. Maitenance sided with me about it. Finally one day at a meeting I asked the maitenance supervisor to have some see if there is something we were missing there. A day later he and I walked to track and he showed me...a plane flying over the city. The projector bulb had burnt out years ago and no one realised it initially and then no one even remembered except this one person*** Very cool story sjh! I hope that attentive CM was properly commended for her keen eye!" Actually, my thought was that she'd probably be reprimanded for being such a pedant(from the p.o.v. of WDW management, that is)and told to shut up!
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "Makes me wonder about the missing chariot in SSE. That's been gone too. Did everyone forget that, too!?" Do you mean in the Roman scene? The one that comes around the corner and then gallops away? Is that actually gone?!? Wow - next thing you'll tell me that really cool futuristic stuff(with the fibre optic ceiling)from the backwards descent ending is gone too!!!
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 "greedy corporate mindset". You got it Spirit, that's the problem with the world today. Now can someone please come up with a solution. People who work for it, deserve to make a good income. But the need for excess income is wrong.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>As I mentioned on here a LONG time ago - having been a Disney park obsessive since I was about three and not able to visit until I was thirty(long after the lovely white US TLs had vanished), it was WONDERFUL to see the TL from my View Master youth. It TRULY felt like TL for me.<<< This makes me want to go there and pretend it's 1993. LOL.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Is that actually gone?!? Wow - next thing you'll tell me that really cool futuristic stuff(with the fibre optic ceiling)from the backwards descent ending is gone too!!!>>> :-( :-( :-( :-( Thanks for reminding me. Probably my favorite "scene" in any Disney attraction EVER, on my favorite ride, in my favorite park.... and now it's just SCREENS. Ugh. Flipping depressing. And I'm usually upbeat about the new SSE. But yeah, the chariot is gone. Along with the deeper message of the attraction, but I'M TRYING TO STAY POSITIVE ABOUT IT. *nervous grin*
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ( For the record, I still greatly enjoy Spaceship Earth, as the ideas of the ride are still intact, as is it's philosophy, but when you look at it up close, it has been hurt, a bit. But the spirit of EPCOT is still there.. Just hidden. By fiber-optic curtains. :-/ )
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///TDR's attractions blow all WDW versions out of the water./// Exception: Haunted Mansion...... Magic Kingdom's is far, far superior. (and Magic Kingdom's Pirates is better also with its very cool queue)
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Magic Kingdom's is far, far superior*** Hyperbole much? Granted, I've not been on the MK version since this much vaunted (and desperately needed) rehab a couple of years ago, but even if it now takes the edge, I can't imagine where you'd get "far, far superior" from...they are, after all, practically identical in a macro sense.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Post 78 for 76.... >>>Granted, I've not been on the MK version since this much vaunted (and desperately needed) rehab a couple of years ago, but even if it now takes the edge, I can't imagine where you'd get "far, far superior" from...they are, after all, practically identical in a macro sense.<<< We have new effects now, like the bride, the stairs, and the floating Leota.
Originally Posted By Mr X And we have unique effects as well, such as the walking books and the morphing painting. I dig floating Leota though, saw that in California I think...they should add that one next time around. Still, "far far superior" is quite a bit of exaggeration.
