Originally Posted By Mr X ***I have had similar conversations with Liberals when I proved to them that the U.S. removed 550 tons of Yellow cake uranium from Iraq*** Prove it here.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <if your against gay marriage your anti-Gay,> If you're against gay marriage you are, at the very least, against gay Americans being treated as equal citizens. It's the equivalent of "Goodness me, some of my best friends are negroes! I just don't see why I should have to eat at the same lunch counter if I don't want to."
Originally Posted By Dabob2 ***I have had similar conversations with Liberals when I proved to them that the U.S. removed 550 tons of Yellow cake uranium from Iraq*** I remember this story from 2008. Wonder why it didn't get much play outside far-right sites claiming it was something it wasn't? Because there was no "there" there. <a href="http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_it_recently_revealed_that_the_us.html" target="_blank">http://www.factcheck.org/askfa..._us.html</a> "No. Uranium recently shipped from Iraq to Canada was left over from Saddam Hussein's defunct nuclear weapons program and had been in sealed containers, under guard, since the end of the first Gulf War in 1991. Claims that this material is "vindication" for President Bush's WMD claims in 2003 are completely false. Beyond Investor's Business Daily's editorial, conservative bloggers and chain e-mails have claimed that the Associated Press report proves that President Bush was right in the run-up to the Iraq war when he said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. One e-mail a reader forwarded to us said this was "vindication for the Bush administration." It's not. The AP article, published on July 5, said that a large amount of yellowcake uranium was, in fact, sold by Iraq to Canada, as part of a secret mission facilitated by the U.S. But this uranium was known to have been in Iraq following the conclusion of the first Gulf War. It was not "found" in 2003, as the IBD editorial claims. As the AP article said, "There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, [a senior U.S. official] said." This link shows more on the attempt by the far right to make this into more than it was: <a href="http://openleft.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=56D20BFAE25E43F5D0AAE8675DCBD640?diaryId=6791" target="_blank">http://openleft.com/showDiary....yId=6791</a>
Originally Posted By mawnck www.factcheck.org More leftwing lamestream media. Everybody knows that facts have a liberal bias. ;-)
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Actually, the far right does not NEED to check the "facts" because they already know what's true.....Glen Beck and Rush Limbaugh told them so!
Originally Posted By Donny in post 21 Mr. X asked me to "prove it" here is a link from MSNBC <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/</a>
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Here's the part that you may have missed, Donny: "Israeli warplanes bombed a reactor project at the site in 1981. Later, U.N. inspectors documented and safeguarded the yellowcake, which had been stored in aging drums and containers since before the 1991 Gulf War. There was no evidence of any yellowcake dating from after 1991, the official said. U.S. and Iraqi forces have guarded the 23,000-acre site — surrounded by huge sand berms — following a wave of looting after Saddam's fall that included villagers toting away yellowcake storage barrels for use as drinking water cisterns." This yellowcake is from before 1991, but was finally shipped out of there in 2008 after years of being documented and guarded by the U.N.
Originally Posted By Donny "DyGDisney" I don't understand are you saying that their was not 550 tons of Yellow cake both before and after we invaded Iraq ?????It was their and Saddam had access to it.
Originally Posted By Mr X How did Saddam have access to it if it was being guarded by the U.N. all that time?
Originally Posted By DyGDisney I'm saying that the U.N., therefore I'm sure the U.S Government, knew about that yellowcake, had control over it, and therefore could not use it as an excuse to go over to Iraq and start a war.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << I don't understand are you saying that their was not 550 tons of Yellow cake both before and after we invaded Iraq ?????It was their and Saddam had access to it. >> OK. Let's follow your theory. Where were the WMDs? Yellowcake by itself doesn't make a WMD. It's not weapons grade. It requires enrichment. Bush claimed there were WMDs -- not the ingredients for some far in the future WMDs. Where were the WMDs? Are you telling me that we went to war and spent a trillion dollars over uranium that wasn't weaponized or even in the process of being weaponized?
Originally Posted By Donny Mr. X I am asking you to take your Liberal blinders off and acknowledge 550 tons of yellow cake uranium that was in Iraq the U.N. had no way of stopping Saddam from going to it if he decided to do what Iran is doing right now.The yellow cake was a low yield but even that stuff can make an impressive suitcase bomb.Saddam really didn't want to access it if he could sneak some un accounted for uranium in but if he was still alive today I could see him getting bored like Iran has and start messing with it.
Originally Posted By Donny OK let me get back to this thaught I have been to 2 teaparty meetings and I see no sign of accepted racism by the teaparty group.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Someone needs to read #23 again (and its links), and jettison elaborate "what ifs" for "what is."
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I see no sign of accepted racism by the teaparty group.<< This, I can buy. There are tea party groups and there are tea party groups. The trouble is that it's difficult to separate them out. Which ones are racist, which ones are innocently pursuing a racist agenda without intending to, and which ones actually have enough sense to temper their rhetoric with compassion and common sense? I have much fewer problems with that third group. It sure is dang hard to find them, but like Christians and Muslims and southerners and heiresses, the sensible ones never get shown on TV because they're boring.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "35 Donny Tue 8/24/2010 7:11p OK let me get back to this thaught I have been to 2 teaparty meetings and I see no sign of accepted racism by the teaparty group.". Oh it's quite possible entire local chapters would be free of racism. But one need only read the OP or see some of the rally signs to know that that doesn't apply everywhere.
Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/glenn_greenwald/2010/08/23/park51" target="_blank">http://www.salon.com/news/opin...3/park51</a> Free from racism? Check out the link, if you dare. Watch the rally over the non-Ground Zero non-mosque. It's scary. Some poor black fellow wandered into the crowd. Apparently his dark skin led them to think he was a Muslim. I guess I'm surprised at my own surprise. Just when I think these people can't sink any lower....
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I have much fewer problems with that third group. It sure is dang hard to find them, but like Christians and Muslims and southerners and heiresses, the sensible ones never get shown on TV because they're boring." LOL.
