Originally Posted By DAR All I'm saying is the christian comment wasn't needed. What if I had responded with, "well this woman was probably an atheist"? That would have no bearing on the story and neither does this.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I think a lot of people really miss the point. There are some amazing Christians out there. The ones that are caring, and do things for the community, are charitable, kind and non-judgemental. These are not the paople so many of us rant about. Though you don't have to be Christian to be the above either. It is the hypocrits, the book burners, the wasps, the helfire and brimstoners. Those are the bad christians. You know, they ones that do not act according to the good teachings they purport to shroud themselves in. You know, kind of like if a healthfood coach all of a sudden was seen eating a bucket of KFC, a Dominoes Pizza, a Whopper Meal and a dozen tacos washed down with a bottle of Jack Daniels while smoking were telling off people for being fat.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo You don't see it DAR, do you. The amount of crap that is out there about conservatives beliving in Christian values, and how that seems to be the auspicious approach to so many issues. To then behave in a wholly unchristian way, it is laughable. Just like the religious right who are anti social medicine, when Christ was a practitioner of Social Medicine.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<There's an epidemic of crazy in this country and I don't think there's anything we can do to solve it. We have millions of working class and poor Americans who are passionate about protecting corporate interests int the name of nationalism. It's crazy. It would be like slaves fighting for the rights of plantation owners.>> <<From my personal experience, I have met few if any people who embrace Republican politics who did not call themselves believers of one sort or another.>> I suggest reading "Deer hunting with Jesus". It provides an interesting perspective as to why the white lower middle class consistetntly votes against their economic interestes.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo That sounds a great book, I may need to see if Santa will bring it to me if I am a good boy.
Originally Posted By DAR Dave I agreed with the first post I just didn't care for the comment about christians.
Originally Posted By Kilroy I was walking in Compton late one night and all of a sudden a car drives up with tinted windows and one window slowly comes down and all I could see was a shotgun which started shooting up the neighborhood. "I'm sure they're all good blacks too" "yes, good pious blacks, all!" Can you now see why the sarcastic and biting Christian comments are unneeded? Black comments don't belong in my story because we're talking about reprehensible behavior not their skin color, same with the Christian references. Kilroy is still in the USA(unfortunately!!!)
Originally Posted By Dabob2 You're still not getting what they're saying. They're not saying these people are bad because they're Christian. They're saying these people (almost certainly the vast majority) purport to be Christian, yet are behaving in a non-Christian way. The black analogy doesn't work, because being black doesn't presuppose a particular behavior or way of viewing life. Christianity does - ostensibly, you're following the teachings of Christ. Yet, these people are doing anything but. Dave is right - it's more like the health food guru, who tells other people how they should live and ostensibly behaves that way himself - gorging on junk food. Much better analogy.
Originally Posted By Kilroy ***You're still not getting what they're saying.*** And you are not getting what I am saying. Those two comments were unnecessary sarcastic blasts coming out of left field. Cheap, cowardly shots. Shots that make us "non faithfuls" look like jerks. Kilroy was here
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I get what you're saying; I disagree with it. There's a difference. The comments were not unnecessary or gratuitous IMO. They were pointing out the hypocrisy of the people in question. As a Christian myself, I took no offense at all, and knew exactly where they were coming from. PB doesn't post here that much, but if you'd been around longer, you'd know that ecdc doesn't take cheap, cowardly shots.
Originally Posted By utahjosh I felt they were almost rejoicing that they found Christian hypocrites. Not so much ecdc, but later posts. If that is true, it's quite distasteful and offensive.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt The comment was not attack on Christians. With that said, the morons on the conservative Christian right deserve every bit of lambasting they get as far as I'm concerned.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I felt they were almost rejoicing that they found Christian hypocrites.> Sadly, it's not that difficult. And these people SHOULD be called out for what they are. I'm far more offended by the original story - and I would think you would be too - than anything that came after.
Originally Posted By pecos bill Personally, I feel no need to placate anyone. I made points and then explained them. A majority of reasonable people have concurred, and that is good enough for me. This is World Events, so please get over it.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <How do we know they were christians? > We went through this. Given that it was a group of self-proclaimed "tea parties," it's a safe assumption that the overwhelming majority were. If there were non-Christians among them being hypocritical to what they ostensibly believe in as well, fine - call them out, too.
Originally Posted By Kilroy ***Personally, I feel no need to placate anyone.*** ***This is World Events, so please get over it.**** And with abrasive comments like that, Mate, it is you that is "scraping" for a fight
