Originally Posted By oc_dean >>Texas GOP wants to secede from U.S.<< Translation: Texas GOP are little cry babies over the election, and are jumping up and down furiously! Live in a bubble and think their neo-conservative ways of living is the way all of America should be! Or cut themselves off from "the rest"!
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Can we have a petition where the President signs an executive order where anyone who signs a petition for secession is an idiot ?
Originally Posted By Labuda ^^^ There's a petition there on whitehouse.gov that I saw that is to deport everyone who signs a petition for their state to secede. I opted not to sign it, but in theory, I love the idea! heh
Originally Posted By Labuda "Here is a possibly amusing read (I haven't read it myself): <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ...i=507846" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ...i=507846</a>" Thanks for the link, man! I just bought it on my nook and will read it once I'm done with this: <a href="http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/under-the-banner-of-heaven-jon-krakauer/1110915777?ean=9781400032808" target="_blank">http://www.barnesandnoble.com/...00032808</a> I've got about 140 pages to go, so should finish by the weekend and get started on Better Off Without 'em. I'll let ya know if it's good or not.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Interesting that Rick Perry doesn't support the secession. That almost seems pretty sane.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda Regarding the petitions asking to secede, aren't their federal laws regarding sedition? sedition: rebellion of incitement: actions or words intended to provoke or incite rebellion against government authority, or actual rebellion against government authority {from Bing's online dictionary} Synonyms: incitement to rebellion, agitation, treason, subversion, troublemaking, rabblerousing
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I had to warn my Soldiers today, had any of them signed a petition for secession they could be tried for treason...
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Let's say a state did secede it would be like Gil and the other fish escaping the dentists office in Nemo. Now what?
Originally Posted By EdisYoda I hope they understand some of the implications as well... Passports, currency, import/export, etc.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I want Texas to secede so I can see how they handle their borders lol...
Originally Posted By Tikiduck The GOP is nothing but a bunch of snot nosed, spoiled little brats throwing a tantrum. Fox news is hanging onto Benghazi like a starving dog on a scrap of meat. I am honestly surprised there have been no ritualistic suicides in protest of the Democratic victory. Secession, HA, what a bunch of stone cold idiots!
Originally Posted By mawnck >>I had to warn my Soldiers today, had any of them signed a petition for secession they could be tried for treason...<< I would assume the usual practical response to such an action would be a good tongue lashing and not an actual trial, right? Just seems a bit harsh.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I would assume the usual practical response to such an action would be a good tongue lashing and not an actual trial, right? Just seems a bit harsh." A semi-educated guess is that the charge would likely be something more like sedition, which loosely put is under the umbrella of treason. Either way, William is essentially correct. A private citizen csn exercise the right to free speech by signing a petition to secede, but a soldier, not so much for obvious reasons.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost No, the world of the military is much different then being a civilian. For one thing you are there to protect and defend the constitution and the people that are affected. Signing a succession document means that you no longer support the government that you are there to defend. Although, it may seem "harsh", imagine the problems that would arise if you were asked to defend the country against individuals that are trying to rip it apart. It is treason in it's most distinct form. Signing is more then showing support for individuals in this case, it is showing your lack of support for the government as we have lawfully established it. Court Martial and in all probability, Dishonorable discharge would follow.
Originally Posted By FaMulan I facelifted this from a friend who got it from her father: >>> Dear Red States: >>> >>> >>> >>> We’re ticked off at your Neanderthal attitudes and policies, so we’ve decided we’re leaving. >>> >>> We in New York, Mass and California intend to form our own country and we’re taking all the other Blue States with us. In case you aren’t aware that includes Hawaii, Oregon, Washington, MD, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Vermont, the rest of the Northeast, and DC also. >>> >>> We believe this split will be beneficial to the entire nation and especially to the people of our new country called “The Enlightened States of American” (E.S.A). >>> >>> To sum up briefly: You get Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona and all the slave states. >>> >>> We get stem cell research, the best beaches, and we’ll take all the creative gay people you don’t want anyway. >>> >>> We get Barack and Michelle, Bill & Hillary, Andrew Cuomo, Elizabeth Warren and Dianne Feinstein. You get Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry and Todd Akin. >>> >>> We get the Statue of Liberty. You get OpryLand. >>> >>> We get Harvard, Yale, Columbia, UC, Stanford and Princeton. You get Ole’ Miss. We get Silicon Valley, NYC, San Francisco, Seattle and 85 % of American’s venture capital and best entrepreneurs. You get Alabama and Arkansas. >>> >>> We get two-thirds of all the tax revenue. You get to make the Red States pay their fair share. >>> >>> Our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition states, so we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of angry single moms and deadbeat Dads. >>> >>> With the Blue States in hand we will have firm control of 80% of the country’s fresh water, more than 90% of the pineapple and lettuce, 92% of the nation’s fresh fruit, 95% of American’s quality wines (you can serve Ripple at your state dinners), 90% of the best cheese, 90% of the high tech industry, most of the US low sulfur coal, all the living redwoods, solar power, the Sequoias and Condors, all the Seven Sister schools, plus Harvard, Yale, Stanford, UC, UCLA, Cal Tech and MIT. >>> >>> With the Red States you will have to cope with 88% of all the obese Americans and their projected healthcare costs, 92% of all US mosquitoes, nearly 100% of the tornadoes, 90% of the hurricanes, 99% of all the Southern Baptists, virtually 100% of all televangelists, plus Rush Limbaugh, Glen Beck, Bob Jones University, Clemson and the University of Georgia. >>> >>> We also get Hollywood and Yosemite, thank you very much. You get Appalachia. >>> >>> You get 38% of those in the Red States who believe that the world was created in 7 days and that Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, the 62% who are pro-life for fetuses but not for the kids who are actually born or their Moms, those who believe life is sacred unless we’re discussing the death penalty or gun laws. The 44% who know that evolution is only a theory, the 53% who still believe that Saddam was part of 9/11 and had weapons of mass destruction, that Obama was born in Kenya and the 61% of those crazy bastards who even believe they have higher morals then we do. >>> >>> We’re taking all the good weed too. You can have that crap they grow in Mexico. >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> A Citizen of the Enlightened States of America
Originally Posted By barboy ///We get Barack and Michelle, Bill & Hillary, Andrew Cuomo, Elizabeth Warren and Dianne Feinstein/// I don't accept your warrant. ///Our aggregate divorce rate is 22 percent lower than the Christian Coalition states, so we get a bunch of happy families. You get a bunch of angry single moms and deadbeat Dads./// Dear Author and backers, do you know how stupid you sound? I guess you really don't know.
Originally Posted By barboy ///You get Appalachia./// That region is quite pretty ---- once again more stupidity from Author and backers.