Originally Posted By barboy ///We’re taking all the good weed too. You can have that crap they grow in Mexico./// ......not so fast there, good stuff grows in Mexico also. Actually good stuff can be found in many, many places around the world.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I've seen a variant of that since at least 2000, and while they obviously updated some of it, some of it they didn't (OpryLand went out of business quite some time ago, and no way the red states get 90% of the hurricanes if Florida is blue - as it was both times for Obama, but not previously.) It looks like the same thing that has been around for years now, periodically updated and now updated again with some newer names (Cuomo, Warren) plugged in. That said, some of the points are good ones. THAT said, as someone with southern roots through my mom, there's a lot of value there too, along with the crazy. What was it some skinny guy said in 2004? We're not red states and blue states, we're the United States? And we shouldn't stomp our feet and scream secession (or "I'm moving to Canada!") when someone we don't like so well wins an election?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Sadly Dabob, we're not so united anymore < Maybe it's the optimist in me, but I think the fever may be breaking, or at least has a chance to. You do have a few voices in the GOP saying "enough already" to the more extreme positions and tone. It has to start somewhere. My guess is that the base will continue to dominate for a while yet, though, and they'll nominate someone far right (like Santorum) in 2016, convinced that that's what America "really" wants. Then he'll lose badly and finally the more reasonable voices in the party will be able to say "see? We told you so," and THEN, finally, the party will moderate. The fringe nuts will still be there, but they won't wag the dog any more. (Plus, they really are literally dying off.) That's just a guess. I think it will happen, but I think we do have more years of division and ugliness to get through first. But we'll get through them.
Originally Posted By Labuda "I am honestly surprised there have been no ritualistic suicides in protest of the Democratic victory." A guy in Key West killed himself and wrote "F&*#$ Obama" on his will after having previously made statements about "not being around" if the President won re-election. Oh, and this tanning salon owner blamed the President for his financial woes. Yes, a tanning salon owner in KEY WEST, FLORIDA thinks it's the President's fault he has no clientele. That makes sense, right? *sigh*
Originally Posted By TomSawyer I signed the petitions in favor of Texas, South Carolina, Mississippi and Alabama seceding. Thought I'd respect their wishes.
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^Those of us who don't live in Texas should sign another petition and send it to the president: "Dear Mr. President: Please let them leave. Signed, Everyone else"
Originally Posted By TomSawyer It would be great if the red states secede because the blue states that are left won't have to subsidize them any more. We'll get a higher percentage of our own tax revenue back.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>I signed the petitions in favor of Texas, South Carolina, Mississippi and Alabama seceding. Thought I'd respect their wishes.<<< Did you miss Georgia?
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 I've have about a dozen issues with the red vs blue states letter , mainly the fact that it is filled with outright lies... In regards to obesity, I spent 20 minutes looking up the poverty rates and could find nowhere that states 88% of obese individuals live in red states. I find that hard to believe when I checked wikipedia ( I know lousy source, but best I could find) and saw the % of population obese by state... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_the_United_States" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O...d_States</a> It seems all states are bad, with red states fairing no better and no worse than blue states. When I post crap like that I get slammed, but it's ok for others to post straight out lies?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>When I post crap like that I get slammed, but it's ok for others to post straight out lies?<< Yes. This time you did the slamming. That's how it works.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O...d_States" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O...d_States</a> It seems all states are bad, with red states fairing no better and no worse than blue states.<< Actually, the time lapse map on that page does show that obesity is highest in the South. Also some more data points: The top 12 states for obesity: 1. Mississippi (34.9%); 2. Louisiana (33.4%); 3. West Virginia (32.4%); 4. Alabama (32.0%); 5. Michigan (31.3%); 6. Oklahoma (31.1%); 7. Arkansas (30.9%); 8. (tie) Indiana (30.8%); and South Carolina (30.8%); 10. (tie) Kentucky (30.4%); and Texas (30.4%); 12. Missouri (30.3%); And the 12 leanest: 39. Wyoming (25.0%); 40. Arizona (24.7%); 41. Montana (24.6%); 42. (tie) Connecticut (24.5%); Nevada (24.5%); and New York (24.5%); 45. Utah (24.4%); 46. California (23.8%); 47. (tie) District of Columbia (23.7%); and New Jersey (23.7%); 49. Massachusetts (22.7%); 50. Hawaii (21.8%); 51. Colorado (20.7%). See a pattern? >>It seems all states are bad<< But they aren't the same. Not by a long shot.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney The obesity rates are interesting, but I'm more interested in a comparison of level of education per state.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 But they aren't the same. Not by a long shot.<< But the lie posted on this board said 80% of obesity is in red states, explain that lie to me please... My stats show it isn't 80% not by a long shot....
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost My question would be what in the hell does what someone weighs have to do with anything. If that stat were true, and I'm not saying it is, wouldn't those people fall into what would be considered the fat, lazy, entitled 47% and therefore it couldn't be a red state could it. And as long as were on that, we need to drop that red state/blue state crap. It is harmful to our identity and reduces our election process down to a game of chutes and ladders. Seems like we should be more enlightened then that by now.
Originally Posted By fkurucz But the red states are the fat ones. That there is no denying. And they are less educated and poorer.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Red states are heavier, have lower levels of education, and are poorer. They are also welfare states, taking more tax money from the federal government than they pay in. Blue states tend to be fitter, have higher education, and are wealthier. And they subsidize the lifestyle choices of the red states by paying more in taxes to the federal government than they receive. But, hey, liberals are the ones who want something for nothing.
