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Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 From pictures I've seen, it looks like they're starting to address this problem with more "flat" rockwork on the back of the exposed walls. It looks good so far, and I figured they would do at least something, and this is the better "something" they could have done.
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan The edge of the "completed" rockwork adjacent to the wharf appears to be unfinished - the wire mesh is exposed for some distance from the edge. That, to me, indicates that they are intending to add additional rockwork in the future that will be blended into the existing in that area.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros There is still a bunch of mesh sticking out on the backside of the Toontown hills behind Mickey's house, and I don't think they're planning on doing anything with that any time soon. Given that there is no structural steel sticking out on the back of the Carsland mountains to support any rockwork, I would be shocked if any was added at this point. It looks really bad, especially from the Wharf and Pier, but apparently that's just not a concern. It's interesting how they supposedly went to such great lengths to cover up the electric poles outside the park with the rockwork, but can't figure out how to cover up the back of the rockwork inside the park. 12 acres of rock work, and apparently they just ran out of money or time or just forgot about it. Another high point for WDI.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Easy trigger, they're not done yet. They're not even halfway done. Let's wait and see before we throw stones.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Yeah, let's hope it's not finished. You can't really see the back of the Toontown hills from inside the park, so it's not quite an analogous situation.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I didn't mean to say that it was quite the same thing, but structurally, they are the same. They both have a structural steel skeleton, with a wire mesh over the top that is covered with painted concrete. There is always going to be mesh sticking out along the unfinished edges, regardless of whether or not they have any intention of adding on to the mountains. Given that they seem to be doing all of the construction in sequence, I would be pretty surprised if they brought the steel and rock construction crews back to add on to the back side. From a construction standpoint, there's nothing major going on to the back. If we're lucky at this point, they will put some flat surface on it and paint it, but it will still have a sudden stop when viewed from the Wharf area.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I'm with Ferret on this one. While there is a chance that something may be done to decorate the back side of this thing, it appears that it will just be a flat wall at best. To me that would be fine for the sections not viewable from inside the park, but for the areas that are it's pretty lame that this will most likely be the end result. I guess we'll see soon enough.
Originally Posted By Moon Waffle I've got to figure everyone is jumping the gun on this one a bit. Yes, it looks like the back of the mountain facing the pier will be a flat surface. But we don't know this for sure We don't know if they will decorate it, paint it, or just leave it alone. I suspect it's not really worth getting worked up about until we see the final product. And while I don't like the thought of a giant, flat, unthemed building facing the pier, I'm not sure seeing the mountains of Ornament Valley would fit any better?
Originally Posted By Manfried Hey folks, the backside of Cars Land is just that, the backside. Now they might need to do something on the part that is visible from the Paradise Pier area, but beyond that. Paint it green and forget about it. Spend the money on a new attraction instead.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Hey folks, the backside of Cars Land is just that, the backside. Now they might need to do something on the part that is visible from the Paradise Pier area, but beyond that. Paint it green and forget about it. Spend the money on a new attraction instead." Yeah. Not much is actually all that visible from most of Paradise Pier. They do need to address the view from the Wharf though.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "And while I don't like the thought of a giant, flat, unthemed building facing the pier, I'm not sure seeing the mountains of Ornament Valley would fit any better?" I get what you're trying to say, but can you imagine if the side of Grizzly Peak facing PP were just a flat wall? It's inconsistent with all the effort to create an atmospheric immersive environment. It's the details that have traditionally set Disney apart from other theme park operators.
Originally Posted By Manfried "It's the details that have traditionally set Disney apart from other theme park operators." And here I thought it was great attractions. I guess Disney should stop building attractions and just focus on details instead.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <And here I thought it was great attractions. I guess Disney should stop building attractions and just focus on details instead> Actually, in the not-so-distant past, Disney bragged about building great attractions AND focusing on details. Why do they get to take a pass now?
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 I think it would look good if they made the rockwork on the Pier side to look more like a cliff on the beach or something like that. With bushes or grass sprouting out of the side and then sand at the bottom. Ya know?
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Actually, in the not-so-distant past, Disney bragged about building great attractions AND focusing on details. Why do they get to take a pass now? >>> Speaking only in general and not to this particular rockwork issue, I think that it most definitely is both. If you had great attractions but no detail outside of them, it just wouldn't be the same.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: From the Inn at which my sisters and I stayed at during a recent visit to Disneyland, we received a stunning view of the back side of the iron rebar structure of Carsland's construction. We do hope that the backside will be proprerly decorated for the benefit of those who have to drive or walk by it on Katella Ave.
Originally Posted By Manfried "We do hope that the backside will be proprerly decorated for the benefit of those who have to drive or walk by it on Katella Ave." Now if only those motels had sold their land to Disney.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "And here I thought it was great attractions." Not all attractions are created equal. "I guess Disney should stop building attractions and just focus on details instead." I find it surprising that after all the long rants about how DCA was lacking in Disney's trademark atmospheric details and theming someone is actually saying that details aren't important.
Originally Posted By Manfried I think details are important, but great attractions always have great details. However, its not the details that make the attraction great, its the basic concept that should be great to start with. Add the details as the design is flushed out. Don't let the details get in the way until later.
