Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt The film isn't a confirmed go. However they are working on a script.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "Did you not just read me mention that this is still a blue sky concept? I never said this attraction was greenlit and 100% approved, I mentioned that it was a BLUE SKY concept." You might want to check your thread title before coming across like I slandered you, son. You read it yet? . . . . . There ya go.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 And of course, by "Rocket Rods", I meant Atsro Orbiter. My point still stands. Every man and his dog knows that WILL go back up onto its platform ONE day. Just like ONE DAY there will be an earthquake somewhere in the world. It DOES NOT indicate the prognosticator has contacts. More like he can see the obvious and state it on a message board. Fail again.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>I have connections, who inform me about these things.<< And we know, based on past experience, that those "connections" are not reliable. >> We'll see who the "FAIL" is if these concepts materialize.<< Asked and answered. See discussion threads about the return of Captain Eo.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "I'm not trying to be psychic. I have connections, who inform me about these things." I know some guys, too, and not too many people around these parts would be upset if'n I sent them over to see you.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 My thoughts were more along the lines that if *I* was Mr F's informant, would I be particularly pleased to know he was blabbing to all and sundry about concepts I had let him know and see. That is IF he has an informant at all.....which I HIGHLY doubt.
Originally Posted By 2001DLFan "My point still stands. Every man and his dog knows that WILL go back up onto its platform ONE day." Well, every man and his dog are clueless and have no idea what the Astro Orbitor will do. But one thing is for sure, it will NOT go back up where the original Rocket Jets were. The structure is totally incapable of supporting the system.
Originally Posted By Mr F <<"My point still stands. Every man and his dog knows that WILL go back up onto its platform ONE day.">> <<Well, every man and his dog are clueless and have no idea what the Astro Orbitor will do. But one thing is for sure, it will NOT go back up where the original Rocket Jets were.>> <<The structure is totally incapable of supporting the system.>> I know about concepts for the 3rd revamp of Tomorrowland, and it does include placing the Astro Orbitor on top of the Rocket Jets Platform. In one variation was to replace the rockets with "Jet Packs", where riders would have been strapped in, much like a "Flying" rollercoaster or Hang Glider. I however doubt this will get approved because it would require a high height restriction, and most likely wouldn't be comfortable. Even if the Astro Orbitor was too heavy to place on top of the platform, they would just build a new Rockets ride to put on the platform. Point is, the plan is to put the rockets back up there. Al Lutz even mentioned this once. Call me a FAIL all you like Bob, but have you even seen the concept art? If not, you shouldn't be speaking like you know everything. <<I know some guys, too, and not too many people around these parts would be upset if'n I sent them over to see you.>> Send them my way, PLEASE, it'd be so nice to meet them.
Originally Posted By danyoung >I never said this attraction was greenlit and 100% approved, I mentioned that it was a BLUE SKY concept.< Words from your original post - >The current Innoventions building will be demolished and a new show building will take it's place...The ride vehicles will resemble vehicles from the newer Tron Movie, and will be enclosed...Also, the ride will occupy the Old People Mover/Rocket Rods Track. The ride vehicles will travel on the track around Tomorrowland, once again giving the area a more kinetic feel.This Attraction will be the centerpiece attraction of yet another Tomorrowland revamp...< Nowhere did you use the words Blue Sky in your original post. And that's where you got into trouble.
Originally Posted By Manfried Like everyone and their mate hasn't seen posts similar to Mr F's from so many others. Or is it wishful thinking? Or is it some internal Imagineer trying to find another patsy to play their political gamesmanship? Mr. F, cite your sources please. Quit playing games.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I thought the whole debate about whether or not TRON is coming to DLR in the foreseeable future was settled several months ago. In the lively discussion below Leemac makes a logical explanation as to why any major new investments on attractions at DLR are unlikely at the moment. <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-118399-P-2.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...-P-2.asp</a>
Originally Posted By berol I'd object to "Blue Sky" being called a plan. Blue Sky doesn't mean blueprint.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Al Lutz has, actually, said very little about Tomorrowland in his updates in the last year or so. Much less, a word about Tron. His columns focus on the point that John Lassetter had been seen poking his head around backstage areas of Frontierland and Tomorrowland ... in the hope changes happen this decade. What I am coming to a realization on ... Is the death of this rumor: Innoventions building AND Peoplemover track combined into one attraction. That might have been a consideration a while ago. But is now growing into the latest "urban myth". Peoplemover tracks are a separate issue. Got nothing to do with any such "Tron" idea. If anything .. the rumors on Tron is, it would be a rollercoaster track of sorts .. all contained within a showbuilding ... that consumes the sight of Innoventions and backstage - hence Lassetter's peek at backstage facilities. I put more credence into that ... than any "Tron ride on the Peoplemover track". I've been over this a gazillion times ... but how do you do a Tron LIGHTcycle ride throughout the DAY light hours at Disneyland? By removing 50% or more .. of the Tron gimmick ... you're robbing the audience of where Tron truly should exist - In a completely closed-in environment of it's own - A Showbuilding. But seems according to Leemac .. and a huge giant thread at Micechat .... the prospect of a Tron ride ain't look'n so hot for DL. But seems there may be some traction for it at Shanghai DL, and WDW.
Originally Posted By phruby <<I've been over this a gazillion times ... but how do you do a Tron LIGHTcycle ride throughout the DAY light hours at Disneyland? By removing 50% or more .. of the Tron gimmick ... you're robbing the audience of where Tron truly should exist - In a completely closed-in environment of it's own - A Showbuilding.>> Unless you enclose each peoplemover with LCD screens that can be backlite or not. This allows the screens to show the outside (tronified day or night) or just show video as the ride moves along the track. Of course these peoplemover cars dont have be Tron related. They can display anything. Basically this would be a slow moving virtual reality ride with the illusion of speed via video. Heck wouldn't it be cool to use these cars are moving platforms for a Halo-type game. Everyone gets to shoot at each other's cars as the move along the track.
Originally Posted By oc_dean As many know .. I have huge hopes for a new Peoplemover of sorts ... to follow the same path. I just wonder .. if totally enclosed, that means Air Conditioning systems! And just how reliable would A/C systems .. mounted to each vehicle be? Just seems to me .... nothing could be totally "enclosed". Seems there would be the necessity to have plenty of "flow through" openings to draw plenty of fresh inside.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Just seems to me .... nothing could be totally "enclosed". Seems there would be the necessity to have plenty of "flow through" openings to draw plenty of fresh inside.<< Not to mention some way to monitor the guests so it doesn't turn into the Peoplemaker.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Not to mention some way to monitor the guests so it doesn't turn into the Peoplemaker." Ha! "I just wonder .. if totally enclosed, that means Air Conditioning systems! And just how reliable would A/C systems .. mounted to each vehicle be?" I still don't understand why anyone would insist that Disney build an elevated transit system as a ride that people can take in any just about any urban area in America. If you want to ride around in a train above Tomorrowland just hop on the Disneyland Monorail System.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>people can take in any just about any urban area in America.<< You keep touting that my friend .. when in fact .. since 1967 .. only a handful of U.S. cities have a peoplemover. And usually at a few airports .. to get from one terminal to the next. When Orange County gets it's first peoplemover to go .. lets say from Anaheim to Irvine and back up to Fullerton .. then we'll have this conversation again ... and maybe then .. we can discuss them like they are as common as McDonalds and Starbucks. :~)
