Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "You poor, poor man It's just an ad featuring a buxom, scantily clad woman for Newport News. It was a bit of a joke on another thread. The funny thing is, it's just like something you'd see in almost any clothing catalogue, but it is slightly jarring for LP, seeing her next to an ad for Mr. Potato Head Tinkerbell shoes " She's a Sports Illustrated model named Marissa Miller. All I can say is do an unfiltered Google search.
Originally Posted By JohnS1 I just discoverd Newport News is some internet retail outlet. I thought it was a newspaper from Newport, California!
Originally Posted By ecdc SPP, you may very well be right about Bush not being elected again. I guess I'm just not feeling particularly positive about our country or its inhabitants these days. I do think the short-term memory loss that most Americans seem to suffer from does make it possible Bush could be re-elected, but again, maybe I'm just overly pessimistic.
Originally Posted By jmoore1966 I'm becoming a bit of a cynic in my middle age. The way I currently see our political climate is we have two parties that basically behave exactly the same way with their actions once they get in office, yet their campaign strategies in order to get their are completely different. One side claims to be for the little guy, the environment, minorities, women, etc. and against big fat cats keeping them down -- using race baiting and class evny to get elected. The other side claims to be for traditional values, religious beliefs, pro-life, anti-quotas, etc. Also using race baiting and fear tactics to get elected. Whatever it takes to get elected, however, once they are there its just more of the same. Sure, they'll come out and give a fear inducing speech against the other party now and then -- to ensure their future job or their party in general -- but nothing is ever done to make progress. As an example, the current discontent the Dems feel for the war in Iraq. They sure talked up and down that something would be done about that, but once they get in, they just stay the course. Not to give the Republicans a pass. They sure talk the illegal immigration chant up and down, but they sure haven't done squat to resolve that issue. What progress can we really claim over the past 20 years as a result of our politicians listening to the people and doing our work? The older I get the more I think politicians really care more about their next job than doing what is right for the country -- which I think is the main difference between politicians now and 200 years ago -- when political positions were not quite the career they are now. Merry Christmas.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Whatever it takes to get elected, however, once they are there its just more of the same. >> This is a typical argument. However, I think it is safe to say that if we hadn't put Big Oil in the White House with a Republican Congress, there might be a few things different in our country today. While politicians may all seem to be cut from the same cloth, I think there are enough important differences to warrant people paying attention and making their vote count.
Originally Posted By jmoore1966 I honestly did not see much of a diffence with the "actions" in the 90s than those of today. The rhetoric was different, but the actions the same.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy I would suggest that you should pay a little better attention, then.
Originally Posted By woody >>For like three straight days, Britney Spears' pregnant sister was the lead story on CNN. Conservatives really have to stop calling it the liberal media and start calling it the brainless media.<< Can't they be both? Gee, no wonder they are liberal.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Yo, woodman. Enough with the "liberal" v. conservative stuff, especially throwing around the word "liberal" as an insult. It's old, it's tired, and we're all pretty sick of it, even other conservatives on this board are tired of it. Let's try civility.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I was -- that's how I have become so cynical. < I agree whole heartedly - as a moderate I can say I too have been paying attention for quite some time and over the years have been involved with political parties locally ( both sides at different times) - and yes their is precious little difference. Both corrupt beyond most peoples comprehension - yep Both in the pockets of big business - you betcha so instead of homers rooting for 'their team' and how different they are, maybe it's time to pay closer attention and demand more from both. The giving of a pass to the home team ( so to speak) is why both parties have been able to get this far down the path to begin with.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Yo, woodman. Enough with the "liberal" v. conservative stuff, especially throwing around the word "liberal" as an insult. It's old, it's tired, and we're all pretty sick of it, even other conservatives on this board are tired of it. Let's try civility. >>> And note that it's coming from someone that's accusing others of ad hominem attacks.
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Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: When a country--such as your United States of America--has a secret Shadow government running things behind the scenes, elections mean nothing. Voting is merely a sham. The Bilderberg group puts whomever THEY want into the White House and most Americans are none the wiser. You ducklings really should investigate your secret societies and find out the truth about THEM! Of course the things you will learn will frighten you beyond words--but at least you'll come to realize who your real enemies are. Independant-politicians have no chance of winning the necessary power to turn things around. They would be assassinated before they were sworn in. It's an evil world out there, ducklings, and it's getting more evil by the day. The 9/11 tragedy was an inside job that still hasn't had enough light shed to expose the horrific lies that remain hidden from the general public. Each one of you has the responsibility to find out, for yourselves, what the truth really is. You're not expected to take a witch's word for it. But you would be doing yourselves a favor by digging a lot deeper to learn the REAL story behind your country's current government. Corruption, thy name is the Bilderberg Group!!
Originally Posted By woody >>And the civility theme?<< It sunk with the Huckabee thread over there. You uncivil hypocrite.
Originally Posted By DAR Post 36 is nothing more than complete and utter hokum. That junk has been discredited by Democrats and Republicans and everyone inbetween.
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