Originally Posted By cmpaley >>Why the sardonic fear CM? I don't think an uninformed person should be taken seriously in any rational discussion.<< Part of my way of keeping informed is by intentionally NOT watching ANYTHING FAUXNews puts out. I get my news from various sources.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>Thanks for the rollercoaster ride and I will now let Bill and the boys battle it out and Larry King and Greta and hannity. I like to learn from everyone.:O night night LP<< Watching FAUXNews will not give you the whole picture. Try expanding your horizons. Cable "News" exists to entertain, not inform. You need to use multiple means of obtaining information.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe CM---You do understand English in the exact sentence that YOU just wrote? "I like to learn from everyone" Then you write-- "You need to use multiple means of obtaining information" Are you okay CM>>????? It doesn't make you look good at all!
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Addendum CM- I'm up at 3 EVERY morning and while working out on bike, weights etc for hours EVERY day, I keep track of the more than 300 channels I have on the Dish and cable NO human being can be more eclectic than that so please think carefully before you say silly things about me and tell me that I should do EXACTLT what I am doing! respectfully ccj Maybe you're overtired or something?
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 ccj, do you work for Fox News? Some of your posts come across as shilling for the network. What people don't realize about O'Reilly is that he's not a far right conservative ala Rush or Hannity. For example, O'Reilly thinks Iraq is a complete mess. Listen to Rush or Hannity and things are going swimmingly.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe DD---------Not you too i.e. not being able to read the English Language. Read my post NO>163 to be exact! Maybe my Boston accent is being transferred to posts and some people can't understand me? That's all right as I thank God for every second of every day that I'm alive on this earth.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe DD--------Do you want the books I read? The newspapers? I get the Orlando Sentinel Sunday delivered 1200 miles every week. I have 10 different papers on my favorites page on my office computers I can bore you to death with my myriad and I do mean myriad sources of info. I even glance at the pathetic network news! How's that for being open minded? hehe
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Cape Cod Joe - have you read the court documents I posted earler, or are you still getting your information about this story from O'Reilly? I posted links to the bare facts of this case. As a matter of fact, I'm the ONLY person so far in this thread that has referred to the original documents. Don't talk about "just the facts" if you can't be bothered to read them for yourself. You're talking about going to your legislators based on what O'Reilly told you, but there's no evidence in this thread that either you or Beau have actually looked at the text of the judge's sentencing or even the prosecutor's motion to have the judge reconsider his sentence. You can read a thousand newspapers every day, but none of them will give you the insight into this story that simply reading the judge's sentencing and the prosecutor's motion will. The only insight you'll get is what the reporter or commentator thinks about the story.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Tom-------I SAW the judge reading his entire message plus I DID read your link. Thank you for that. What does Beau have to do with me? We agree on one subject and some poster who doesn't know me say we're twins so you assume....??????????? Makes no logical sense coming from an open minded person like you. Interesting how the whole country and especially Vt. is changing because of Bill. Thank you Bill for speaking up and there will be protesters------finally
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<Makes no logical sense coming from an open minded person like you.>> Makes perfect sense to the people who've been long-time posters in WE.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Wait - you saw him read the entire message? The transcript of the entire hearing is 110 pages long. Something might have been left out.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Wow, all these posts and the same usual suspects are still sticking up for a judge that gave a repeat child rapist 2 months in jail, who is getting out in March. Tom, the rapist is getting out in March after raping a little girl for 4 years. Yet here you are with Ike justifying it. STPH, your understanding of what a judge is supposed to do is flawed as we have seen in debates from the past. So thanks for trying to impress with some so called legal background of yours, but your off base again. I don't care what little attachments the judge gave to has 2 month sentence. You simply dont give a child rapist 60 days and some rehab sob story. You give a child rapist as many years in prison as the law allows. Screw rehab for this animal. After he gets 25 years we can talk about rehab. The Vermont attorney general already said the 60 day sentence was illegal.. But will STPH or Tom understand that? Not so much... Besides, even if the judge COULD give the rapist of a 6 year old girl 2 months in jsil by Vermont law, why is that OK with you people? Why wouldn't you be demanding real justice instead of all this garbage your trying to throw out to defend the judge? Liberals can't be trusted to protect our kids as we once again see here in this thread.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Have you read the sentencing transcript and the motion by the prosecutor, Beau?
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<DD--------Do you want the books I read?>> Nope <<The newspapers?>> Nope <<I get the Orlando Sentinel Sunday delivered 1200 miles every week.>> You must think highly of the OS <<I have 10 different papers on my favorites page on my office computers>> Some of my favorites included, USA Today, LP, Theforce.net ESPN and Fox News. <<I can bore you to death with my myriad and I do mean myriad sources of info.>> We all have myriad sources of info, it's called the internet. <<I even glance at the pathetic network news! How's that for being open minded? hehe>> I've actually gone away from watching any of the networks or news channels, unless a story grabs my interest. I'd rather get my news from Sportscenter.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Cape Cad Joe, In case you have not picked up it yet. I get treated on here by the libs like o'Reilly gets treated by the NY Times and the rest of the left wing smear sites. It's what they do when you challenge their crazed, loser, liberal viewpoint that wins no elections. Your telling me I am going to lose a debate where a judge gives a rapist 60 days? And yes, the rapist is getting out in 60 days at this point.. Tom. This reminds me of Valerie Plame and certain people on here ( Tom ) who could not figure out the difference between classified and covert.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe come on Tom -------I don't pick you up for every little word. I saw the salient points where he stated his reasons for the rulings. It's a lot more than you not even watching the factor.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Tom, what is to read. The rapist is getting out in March.,,end of story. I don't care how many pages there are trying to justify it. Is that OK with you under ANY circumstance? Thats the entire problem here.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer >>I saw the salient points where he stated his reasons for the rulings. It's a lot more than you not even watching the factor. << Do you really think that there is some parity between reading the original court documents and watching O'Reilly in being informed about this case?
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Tom------furthermore why do you pick out ONE thing to get me on and ignore the other things that you should have responded to? Why can't you be like me and O'Reilly and just respond rather than obfuscate??? Just respond like I just did. Not that tricky!
Originally Posted By cape cod joe To Beau- I'm catching on here after 3 days as I always give people a chance to be rational but after complimenting Tom, like Kennedy, Hillary, Kerry, and all those cowards who WON'T go on the factor because they WILL not face the truth, there are people at the LP of the same ilk. There are rational people too Beau, so let's not be the pot that calls the kettle black! This case really is a no-brainer If Tom has kids, he should be ashamed of himself.