Originally Posted By oc_dean They lie and distort the truth all the time. There's your "reasonable" response.
Originally Posted By dshyates Well, OCD, FOX NEWS was established as a propaganda distributor from the get go. They never were a news channel. They are like the Daily Show only 24/7. Its not lies. That's the GOP version of a joke. Only the punchline is on the American people.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***WHY do they never discuss the innocent Iraqi and Afghani people who have been killed by the allied troops?*** For the same reason that whenever there is a plane crash they always mention exactly how many Americans were aboard. And, if no Americans were aboard, why the story ends up buried deep inside the newspaper. It's a sad statement, but it's true. Nationalism is important. And so for Americans, the only REALLY important thing is how many American soldiers die. Of considerably less importance is how many allied soldiers die. Of no importance whatsoever is how many enemies die. That's just the cold, hard facts.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Didn't watch didn't plan on it.*** Of course not, DAR. Voting is of so little importance, after all. Go watch baseball. We all know you made up your mind YEARS ago. Though you lied about it on laughingplace, you made your right wing positions very clear elsewhere. In future, why not go with the truth, and stop lying to people? That'd be great.
Originally Posted By mawnck >><<The Nazi channel? Hell no!>> Well there's a reasonable response<< I thought History Network was the Nazi channel.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I agree. I only got to see about five minutes of this, and will now (alas) have to depend on the sound bites. From what I saw, both candidates seemed to be holding it together.*** Why, DlandDug? Are you emulating your candidate by claiming ineptitude on that newfangled computer intranets contraption? Go find the debate. It's out there in cyperspace in a MILLION places. Watch it for yourself. DON'T rely on soundbites, PLEASE (that's exactly what you and your ilk love to drink up like mothers milk...though the truth happens to be quite a bit deeper and more complex, believe it or not! WATCH IT FOR YOURSELF, don't let the big bad liberal media soundbite it for ya!)!
Originally Posted By mawnck Honestly, I see no reason for Dug to watch it. There was nothing in the debate that's going to change anyone's made-up mind, and it's not exactly dripping in entertainment value. Once you've seen the "tell it to John" exchange, you've pretty much seen it all. And that was kind of a draw. I'm sure Rush and Fox News have selected their soundbites as well, for those of the conservative bent.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^True mawnck, But traditionally the debates are really there for the undecided voter in the end or people who have not been paying much attetnion---for the last two years . The only thing that made this debate more interesting (other than seeing McCain decide to do it afterall with a tail between his leg lol) was because of the economic crisis that has now put an emphasis on choosing someone who seem most able to lead more than ever. But yeah, if you are informed, paying attention, news junky, etc (as I imagine if you are HERE, then you are well informed on most issues anyway), you probably made up your mind months or even a year ago and at this point, with 6 weeks to go will be hard to persuade most of those people to the other side. But for the undecided voter who wants to make a real decision, these debates are crucial IMO.
Originally Posted By Mr X Re Post 126, waking up and re-reading it came off much differently than I'd intended (it was late!)..I meant for it to be a lot funnier, instead it sounds like I'm attacking. Apologies. But I do think people should watch if they intend to vote, soundbites are bad.
Originally Posted By DAR <<***Didn't watch didn't plan on it.*** Of course not, DAR. Voting is of so little importance, after all. Go watch baseball. We all know you made up your mind YEARS ago. Though you lied about it on laughingplace, you made your right wing positions very clear elsewhere. In future, why not go with the truth, and stop lying to people? That'd be great. >> This will be my fifth election I've voted in. It's only my second real shot at watching playoff baseball. You do the math
Originally Posted By mawnck The McCain campaign has an ad out showing Obama agreeing with McCain at the debate. <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/27/the-most-stupidest-mccain_n_129840.html" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...840.html</a> >>This has to be the first time in history that a candidate ever went negative on his opponent for being too agreeable.<<
