Originally Posted By basil fan I thought the Treasures card sets went totally wacky in naming certain characters as villains. But Panchito? And Brer Rabbit? (2 of my favorite characters, BTW) If every naughty character is a villain, then Grumpy, Scrooge McDuck & Tink belong in that category. Baker Street <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/basil/bakerst.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/ basil/bakerst.html</a>
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs ^^^Brer Rabbit was listed as a hero, not a Villain. That honor went to Brer Fox and Brer Bear. They did list the March Hare and Mad Hatter as Villains though.
Originally Posted By basil fan Whew! Thanks for setting the record straight about Brer Rabbit, FBR. Tarzan's Dictionary <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/etc/tarmangani.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/ etc/tarmangani.html</a>
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs Witch Hazel, Percy (Goofy's horse in 'How to Ride a Horse'), Tootsie (title character in 'Donald's Penguin') and Dr. Finkelstein (listed as Mad Scientists) were all listed as Villains in the set as well. Tod, Copper (as an adult), Slade, Chief and Big Mama are all featured in the card set too. So are Basil and Ratigan. I think Dawson and Olivia are too.
Originally Posted By basil fan I bought set 1 to get Basil, although I don't have all the GMD cards. I'd like the Black Cauldron cards, too, but don't think I want to buy a set to get them. i don't like this set all that much. The card images are too inconsistant. some hardly show the character at all. I thought Dr. Finkelstein was a villain. Is there a difference of opinion on that?
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs <<basil fan: I bought set 1 to get Basil, although I don't have all the GMD cards. I'd like the Black Cauldron cards, too, but don't think I want to buy a set to get them. i don't like this set all that much. The card images are too inconsistant. some hardly show the character at all. I thought Dr. Finkelstein was a villain. Is there a difference of opinion on that?>> I think he was a bit of a tweener... he was good friends of Jack, and he created Sally, but he kept her in his laboratory all day (he didn't want her getting too excited). Other than that, I didn't see anything too evil with him, even though he is billed as a Villain. The cards for The Black Cauldron were Eilonwy and Creeper in Series II (Donald) and The Horned King and Taran in Series III (Pooh). Hey basil, what did you mean by "the card images were too inconsistent?"
Originally Posted By CuriosWolfSo >>I, however, am sure there are many LPers here who are on my side when I say that the Cheshire Cat is not a Villain. << I agree, though he was more of a pest since he was really not much of a help to Alice when she was lost and got her in trouble with the Queen of Hearts. >>The Queen of Hearts is a Villain, and of their regular 10, even though there has been a lot of opinions that she never did anything truly evil.<< Oh? What about all of that "Off with her Head" stuff as she chased Alice all of the way back to the door with the talking doorknob?
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs Well, that is cruel, but unfortunately we never get to see her actually *do* it. *grins* Although there *is* a headless Alice in the Villains Revenge computer game. The Queen of Hearts shares some good old-fashioned evildoing with The Evil Queen/Hag, Captain Hook and... The Ringmaster.
Originally Posted By basil fan The Ringmaster is often considered a villain. I just can't see it...more of a dolt. The images on the cards I have sometimes don't really show the character. some color characters are depicted in black & white. I think, unless I'm very much in error, that some images aren't even from a cartoon, but from some publicity art instead. Anybody want to trade? I'l trade most of the cards I have to get Black Cauldron & Great Mouse cards. Mouse History 101 <a href="http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/disney/history.html" target="_blank">http://www.whatsitsgalore.com/ disney/history.html</a>
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs <<basil fan: The Ringmaster is often considered a villain. I just can't see it...more of a dolt.>> Even though Frank and Ollie dismissed him as a Villain, I think he achieves the status because he humilates Dumbo. Oh, and then there's that locking up his mother thing. I think Disney will always have two groups of Villains: the really obvious ones and the we-don't-know-where-to-put-them-so-we-will-list-them-as-Villains. <<The images on the cards I have sometimes don't really show the character. some color characters are depicted in black & white. I think, unless I'm very much in error, that some images aren't even from a cartoon, but from some publicity art instead.>> Ah, that's right... The black and white images are mostly for the classic characters (Mickey, Minnie, Donald, Goofy et al), although there are some B&W ones for Tootsie (Donald's Penguin), Captain Katt (3 Blind Musketeers), Panchito (why?). There's been a great deal of concept/promo art in there. I know the one of Lampwick has him ice skating on a table. The ones for Peter Pan, Hook and the Seven Dwarfs also fall into that category. I loved the quality of card stock that they used, and I also liked the cards with the filmstrip inside of it. Very cool. I always mention how eBay helped with my Collection of Evilâ„¢. I should also mention how this card set also helped as it contained many rarities, like Amos Slade and Sykes. The weird thing is that even though Panchito is listed as a Villain in the card set, his bio on the back gives us no reason why he's listed as one!
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I am also strictly interested in getting the Black Cauldron cards from this set. I really don't want to have to buy boxes just to get them. I'll have to figure it out, I guess.
