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Originally Posted By Mr X ***As far as Westboro, they have every right to set up shop wherever they want since this is America, BUT... can you please tell me good they have EVER done? Anything at all? Even one small act of charity that has nothing to do with the hatred that is 100% of what they are known for?*** This, though, is where Barboy's hypothetical falls apart when you think about it. A comparison to Westboro "making camp" near an abortion clinic would hold up nicely if it were AL QUADA who were pitching their tent near ground zero. Or, conversely, you need to take offense at ALL Baptist churches being in the vicinity of hate crime locations (AND accuse them of doing it on purpose). Sorry, Barboy. Big fail on this one.
Originally Posted By hopemax > Or, conversely, you need to take offense at ALL Baptist churches being in the vicinity of hate crime locations (AND accuse them of doing it on purpose). < This is what I was thinking. The proper analogy would be to ask if we would disagree with any Baptist church going up. Or, is barboy implying that this particular Islamic center group was responsible for the 9/11 attacks?
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster Let us not forget that the Muslim community building this facility have already been in the neighborhood for decades. This is a non-event on so many levels.
Originally Posted By FaMulan Let us also not forget that people of many different faiths were murdered that day. Some of them were Muslims. Peaceful, most likely grateful to be in America Muslims. And they were killed by extremists just like the Jews, Christians and others.
Originally Posted By Labuda So what in my post 22 got it admined? The meat of it is quoted in post 23... I'd appreciate an email or something letting me know, please, admin.
Originally Posted By DAR Like I said earlier put up a non-denominational center where people of all faiths and beliefs can go to.
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >So does your proclamation cover less popular or contoversial faiths as well or does it only apply to the Islamic faith? < You are implying that Islam is LESS controversial than Christianity... Especially in this country? Really? (Yes I am lumping christian sects together as one deal with it) I don't even have a reaction image for how stupid that is. Lrn2metaphor
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "Like I said earlier put up a non-denominational center where people of all faiths and beliefs can go to." Nice idea, but who exactly is supposed to put it up? The city? The federal gov't? In both cases, easier said than done. The proposed center has been planned for a while and is ready to go. It could start soon, but for this opposition. There's really no rational reason to oppose it, though obviously we've seen the emotional reasons. As someone said, this is pretty much a ginned up controversy. The site isn't even actually AT the WTC site anyway, but a couple of blocks away. Some people are saying they're okay with a mosque further away, which doesn't quite make sense. If two blocks isn't enough somehow, is four? Eight? How large does this "Muslim-free zone" have to be?
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >How large does this "Muslim-free zone" have to be? < Well according to some (I feel a lot of people against this feel the same way) America should be a "muslim-free zone" Because freedom of religion and all that jazz means a country built on ONLY christian values, anything else should just gtfo.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 I am looking for folks who want to invest in my "OlTime DD109's Pork chop puhcart". One easy to find location in downtown NYC. bbq spare ribs coming soon !!!!
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<Like I said earlier put up a non-denominational center where people of all faiths and beliefs can go to.>> I dont get what you mean by this? Its not like the government is putting this up. Its a PRIVATE Muslim organization. Shouldnt they be able to put up whatever they want as long as they have the money and permission to do it? And in that regard, it doesnt stop any Christian, Jewish, Buddhist or whatever organization to build something there as well, so what does it matter?
Originally Posted By DAR Sure they can put it up and those other groups should feel free to put something up right next to them.
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >Pork chop pushcart< You get it! Because they can't eat pork! O sweet sweet delicious obvious racism. This is why we can't have nice things.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones This would be like building the First Church of Klingon at Skywalker Ranch. Just doesn't work.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "O sweet sweet delicious obvious racism." Islam is a religion, not a race.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 you can't help but love folks who are taught that we follow their teaching or it's their duty to kill us.I get warm all over feeling the love.
Originally Posted By dshyates "you can't help but love folks who are taught that we follow their teaching or it's their duty to kill us.I get warm all over feeling the love." That's sort of how I feel about the whole worship our Lord or you will burn in a lake of fire for all eternity crowd. Although since they don't threaten with bodily harm they are easier to ignore.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***you can't help but love folks who are taught that we follow their teaching or it's their duty to kill us.I get warm all over feeling the love*** That is but the extreme end of ALL religions and their transgressions (at least the major ones). The Catholic Church lies to its' membership, insisting that birth control in general is evil and will send you to hell (even if you're married), but they don't stop there...they insist that condoms make aids more likely (a sickening lie), leading millions of Africans to their graves in devout obedience. Is that better or worse than what the Muslims do?
