Originally Posted By leobloom There's all the proof you need. Creative geniuses like Cameron and Rohde (successors to Walt himself) find the HM queue to be boring and stupid. Q.E.D. (Partly kidding...)
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Cool... now we're talking about second hand accounts of how people"looked". How much more PROOF can you get than that? You gotta hand it to the Butler... when he's right he's RIGHT!
Originally Posted By HMButler79 More like FIRST HAND Roadie. Don't you dare quesion my own friend's account of what he saw at work TODAY in his Coordinator costume at the Mansion. And it's not THAT hard to imagine Rhode peeved over Carsillos perevrted decadent self serving project.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Your friend saw something, your friend told you, now you are telling us. Sorry Butler, but that is SECOND hand. Interpreting looks is also a tricky business. I'd have more faith in the report if one of them had actually SAID something negative.
Originally Posted By leobloom I totally trust a front-line hourly CM's interpretation of the situation... Err...umm...right?
Originally Posted By Manfried ^^^ Oh yeah, especially since they did not actually hear what was said.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>...Cameron looked "bored" and Rhode looked "pissed".<< Can't speak for James Cameron, but Rohde often looks, well, annoyed. Don't know why. But it's no gauge of his actual mood. Then again, maybe he really did hate that interactive queue. Which signifies... one more person who hates it.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 Holmes was also apprantly the "tour guide", no doubt gushing on his Butler days. Hey Phil, thx for shoreting the Foyer and Stretch Room timings and making Master Graceys staff more stressed.
Originally Posted By leobloom HMButler, don't be too upset. You can always take comfort in those fancy steak dinners from your teenage years. Tranquility, friend.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>So take this for what's it worth, but i got this straight from the horse's mouth (one of my coordinator friends who worked today). Cameron and Rhode along w/ a gaggle of Disney excutives toured the Mansion queue. According to what he saw with his own two eyes, Cameron looked "bored" and Rhode looked "pissed". Can only imagine TDO was brainwashing Cameron into thinking interactive queues will be the end all be all for Avatarland. But i love that Rohde is livid.<<< HAH. If true, love it.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Well when it comes to Disney news, of course I'm going to believe our most sane and rational poster.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 hey what more proof do you need a second hand account of what someone thought they saw but absolutely did not hear what was being discussed at the time. They could have been talking about the burger they had for lunch for all we know.. what passes for proof is frightening. SHow me a letter from Joe Rhode that says he hates the queue and I will acknowledge that one Imaghinear hates it- while still another we know from the tour he lead likes it. again, no right to an opinion here anymore when we have 'absolutes' like this-- LOL
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer No one is taking is as "proof" or "truth".... but IF it is, it's very funny. Y'all take things way too seriously.
Originally Posted By danyoung >And it's not THAT hard to imagine Rhode...< Butler, at least get the name right. It's not Rhode like "road", it's Rohde like "roadie".
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom << And don't claim the high ground because you think you're in the right while everyone else is wrong. That's just as rude.>> Thanks for taking my post out of context. Apparently you missed my following post of "what gives"? And yes, I'm taking the moral high ground here. When myself and other people post time after time, after time, after time many plausible reason why we dislike this specific interative queue yet continually are demogoged for no plausible reason by certain posters. Well you know what that is just plain rude too! I understand that some posters here can careless that the HM has an interactive queue but when you have posters who can present a strong arguement as to why they don't care for this particular interative queue, why the continued attack by some? Why not leave it as, let us just disagree. And as for name calling you have got to be kidding me. By far the majority of posters on this board continually refer to the Tea Party as Tea Baggers. I guess in matters of politics then that is just fine to do, but God forbid someone call someone a Disney apoligist here.
Originally Posted By Manfried Gee, that's what I said, "We just disagree" and I still got grief. The shrillness of it all, and not the silliness of it all.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Let's occupy Main Street! All those that hate the tooling, generic menus and shopping, priority to dvc over the parks, the inability to get reservations thanks to DDP, poor quality maintenance and service, bad transport. I am the 1%. Who is with me?
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Hey Manfried, how about your post #312. <<What's so funny about some of the folks who keep whining is how they speak in absolutes.>> Yeah! How dare anyone get annoyed about their posted being described as "whining". No rudeness there! <<"I thought I proved my case without a doubt." Well to you maybe you did, and to those who agree with you. But what about those who disagree with you? So we disagree. Just like the anti-changers posts, the pro-changers posts are just as valid. Then there is the occasional person, like me, who says "Wait a minute, me thinks thee dost protest too much.">> Since when are presenting the facts protesting? The facts are the fact. And the facts have no agenda. <<Well, how dare I. How dare I disagree with you because, according to you, you proved your point and no one is permitted to disagree. Well I'm sorry folks, I disagree. I think I proved my point.>> I never said anyone here can't disagree and that wasn't my point. My point was if your going to attack me or shoot down one of my conclusions and the reasoning for that conclusion, then could you please at least demonstrate some plausible reason for doing so. Instead of attacking me ( and others) just for the sake of it.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<Let's occupy Main Street! All those that hate the tooling, generic menus and shopping, priority to dvc over the parks, the inability to get reservations thanks to DDP, poor quality maintenance and service, bad transport. I am the 1%. Who is with me?>> Dave as much as I dream about waking up from the Swiss Family Robertson Tree House and my first vision of the day is Adventureland at dawn, I'm going to have to take the MK good or bad on it's own merits. I like the MK and I'll enjoy it all the same. But, as I have said before, sometimes you have to question the sanity of some of the decisions being made in Burbank.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>...why the continued attack by some?<< When people disagree, that does not constitute an attack. >>Since when are presenting the facts protesting?<< The problem is, there are very few facts out there to support arguments either way on this. "The new queue completely violates the original designers' intentions," is not a fact. It's an opinion. "The Haunted Mansion isn't scary, it's funny," isn't a fact. It's an opinion. And statements like, "this discussion is about some of us pointing out the obvious, while the Disney appologists are in full force," doesn't help.
