Originally Posted By dagobert >>Unfortunately we have to postpone our trip to the US until February 2013.<< >>>Ooh! Let us know when you will be out here! We need to have a Meet.<<< A Meet would be great. Of course we want to meet some LPers. It all depends on my girlfriend's dissertation when we travel back to the US.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones ChiMike was laying down some Real Talk in this thread. Print out his posts and paste them into your family photo album over the pictures of your ugly children.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Fixing the Yeti would cost more like seven figures. Why spend that amount of money when there's a line, repeating the above.>> Because having working effects (especially the yeti, considering he's THE POINT of the ride) is what used to set Disney apart.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Hokie Skipper, sadly the DIsney we all grew up to know, love and respect no longer exists, and I have resolved myself to the fact it is unlikely to do so again.....so,we can either: a) Walk away b) enjoy the new experience c) save up and go to Tokyo I am doing a little of each
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^Oh I know. But the excuse "There's a line so it's cool that things aren't working." is a big pile of BS. Long broken effects are not acceptable, and attitudes that say they are are part of the current problem.
Originally Posted By Manfried Hokie, I agree it should be working. But frankly, WDI should have done a better job of making it work right in the first place. Instead they wanted this incredibly complex huge figure then did not test it properly and provide easier access for maintenance. The creative folks would not listen to the engineers on this one. So, they're stuck with a pig in a poke they can't get out.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^Oh, I completely agree with that. It was a terrible design. But by this point they should have had a fix to get the beast back at least limited movement, rather than the joke strobe lights.
Originally Posted By Manfried Yeah, some kind of solution should be derived. But I doubt its a high priority for them. From a business standpoint they see the line and ask "why bother?"
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^I understand that. But at some point they have to realize that the profits are important, but so is treating your guests with respect and realizing they want the best possible show. And that's the main problem with WDW in the 2000s, all of WDI's problems aside. There's no balance between profitability and show. Show has been completely been taken over by the bottom line.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt ^^ I agree with this. Part of the formula of operating a Disney park is good show.... it's actually a pretty big part of the formula. Nothing is perfect, but if the show is consistently executed poorly people will begin to notice and the place will decline even further. With that said the interactive queue at HM isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. Better for Disney to enhance the experience at HM than to let it fall apart.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<But by this point they should have had a fix to get the beast back at least limited movement, rather than the joke strobe lights.>> How many people other than Disney Geeks realize that it should be something other than what it is now?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^A lot from what I've been told. I have a friend I used to work with at the JC who is now in DAK ops. The yeti is complained about a fair amount by guests. And just anecdotal evidence, but almost every time I've ridden in the past few years, which in all honesty isn't much since I don't bother with DAK much, I've heard comments about how lame it was that the yeti didn't move. Heck, I've heard people say they didn't even see him.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I don't doubt that... he was working the first time I saw him and I didn't see him! When I'm on a coaster I usually don't spend a great amount of time looking at the scenery. I've never seen the guy taking a bath on Big Thunder either.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 he was difficult to see even when he was working- that is very true. I rode a few times when he was supposedly still working and only caught a glimpse once. and I have to believe RT is right- the vast majority of visitors outside our geek world have no idea.. doesn't make it right to sit not working, but I believe the statement RT made is true
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Because having working effects (especially the yeti, considering he's THE POINT of the ride) is what used to set Disney apart.<< And how many years has the fountain of chorines that opens the Great Movie Ride been AWOL? It's a spinning display that sprays water. But the "solution" to that one was to cover it with a screen.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^That's egregious, but at least the Footlight Parade scene isn't the climax or impetus for the entire ride. The Yeti is the climax and point of the entire Forbidden Mountain story. Having him not working and barely visible isn't acceptable.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I agree that it isn't an acceptable show, but if it's a technological problem that requires large amounts of funding and a major reworking of the ride and the creature, then perhaps it really is just a matter of time before it gets fixed.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt With that said, you can be pretty certain that it'll be working by the time Avatar-land opens.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^Honestly, I don't know if I can. I don't see them closing Everest to work on it until Avatar opens. And even then, I seriously would not be shocked if Avatar never happens.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 ^^^Honestly, I don't know if I can. I don't see them closing Everest to work on it until Avatar opens. And even then, I seriously would not be shocked if Avatar never happens.------------ agree they will not take down EE until Avatar-- and for some reason I also have the feeling Avatar may never really happen.
