The High Speed Rail Debate

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    Originally Posted By wahooskipper

    I don't mind raising my taxes to pay for high speed rail...it is all the pork that will go with it that I object too. (Not unlike the health care bill as a matter of fact.)
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    << I don't mind raising my taxes to pay for high speed rail...it is all the pork that will go with it that I object too. >>

    I suggest you write your Congressman and protest the pork they are spending on highways and airports. Then write another letter protesting the subsidies for the oil industry. We are talking orders of magnitude in the difference in spending there and on a handful of rail projects.
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    The first HSR corridor in FL (Orlando-Tampa) is also shovel ready. The Environmental Impact Sudies were completed in 2005.

    <a href="http://www.floridahighspeedrail.org/Home_Page.html" target="_blank">http://www.floridahighspeedrai...age.html</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

    San Francisco's Transbay Transit Center, which will eventually (hopefully) serve as the northern terminus for California High Speed Rail begins construction sometime between now and March. Check out this video rendering of the new development:

    <a href="http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2009/12/30/transit_center_video_reveals_stuff_we_know_about_in_sexy_detail.php#more" target="_blank">http://sf.curbed.com/archives/...php#more</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>Check out this video rendering of the new development:<<

    "renderporn" ... LOL!
     
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    Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

    I know, that site can be very cheeky.
     
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    Originally Posted By SpokkerJones

    Here's a detailed overview of the high speed rail situation in Anaheim: <a href="http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/12/fullerton-to-anaheim-artic/" target="_blank">http://www.cahsrblog.com/2009/...m-artic/</a>

    Apparently the Anaheim Historical Society is drafting a letter making their opposition to the project known. Plenty of controversy in the comments section.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt

    "Apparently the Anaheim Historical Society is drafting a letter making their opposition to the project known."

    Anaheim Historical Society? Puh-leeze. Where were these people when that piece of junk Garden Walk was being built? I suppose that they are more of a club than a group with any real political clout.
     
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    Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

    << Anaheim Historical Society? Puh-leeze. Where were these people when that piece of junk Garden Walk was being built? I suppose that they are more of a club than a group with any real political clout. >>

    They are likely a front group for real estate developers and land owners that are opposed to the public use of land for things like this. As I've moved around the country, I've noticed a trend where historical societies and other supposed civic action groups somehow rise up against public infrastructure projects and then disappear into nowhere when the local develops barf up acres upon acres of tract homes, condo towers, and strip malls. City Councils are usually bought and paid for by real estate developers, so it would be no surprise if a group like this would somehow influence any pending decisions to delay or obstruct a rail project.
     
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    Originally Posted By SpokkerJones

    You never know how far NIMBY opposition can go. They are upset over the fact that there will be some eminent domain proceedings in the area. Also, they say that the rail line will bisect their communities if it's not underground despite the fact that 79 MPH diesel trains already run there. Building HSR above ground will grade separate all the tracks, thus eliminating all horns.

    Of course, I would hope that those who are opposed to eminent domain in Anaheim not drive on I-5, which was widened years ago and impacted many people. That freeway is 500 feet in some places. Now that's some hardcore bisecting going on!
     
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    Originally Posted By DAR

    One of those fancy trains in China was stopped last week.

    <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091230/od_nm/us_china_train_smoker" target="_blank">http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200...n_smoker</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    That's it. I'm voting GOP from now on.
     

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