Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <I hate using this phrase, but what part of a county losing over 20 mil in initial funding alone over a four year period don't you get?> I still don't get how that 20 million amount was determined, and I still don't understand why the funding for this is 2/3 the responsibility of the federal goverment, and only 1/3 the responsibility of the state.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "I still don't get how that 20 million amount was determined, and I still don't understand why the funding for this is 2/3 the responsibility of the federal goverment, and only 1/3 the responsibility of the state." As I said before, L.A. county's funding is $140M. 15% cut is $21M. The Social Security Act provides for the funding arrangement.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh That doesn't explain the things I said I don't understand. Who is saying this fund is going to be cut by 15%?
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder You really haven't read anything, have you? The House Ways and Means Committee.
Originally Posted By cmpaley Considering that for every dollar California send to Washington in taxes, our state only gets 78 cents back in Federal funding and services, I think any cut to California is theft. I think that California wouldn't have the budget problems it has if it weren't for that fact.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer State child support agencies receive federal funding due to the 1996 Welfare Reform act. Deadbeat parents often cross state lines or leave local jurisdictions, so having the weight of federal law behind the enforcement efforts has helped tremendously in the past 10 years to make sure that deadbeat parents are paying child support. "The Child Support Enforcement Program was established in 1975 under Title IV-D of the Social Security Act. Each state runs a child support program, either in the human services department, department of revenue, or district attorneys office, often with the help of prosecuting attorneys, other law enforcement agencies, and officials of family or domestic relations courts. The program provides four major services: locating non-custodial parents, establishing paternity, establishing child support obligations, and collecting child support for families. Provisions in the 1996 bipartisan welfare reform legislation strengthened and improved state child support collection activities by establishing a national new hire and wage reporting system, streamlining paternity establishment, creating uniform interstate child support forms, computerizing statewide collections, and authorizing tough new penalties for nonpayment, such as driver's license revocation. Following these reforms, national child support collections have increased 65 percent to a record $18 billion in fiscal year 2000. " <a href="http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2002pres/cse.html" target="_blank">http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/ 2002pres/cse.html</a>
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You really haven't read anything, have you? The House Ways and Means Committee.> I've read plenty, but I haven't read that.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh I did. It's a letter from a liberal group to the House Ways & Means. Again, it doesn't tell me how much the federal government is spending now verus how much it plans on spending in the future.
Originally Posted By Spree ^Simple Doug. A lot now and a lot more in the future....what they wanted however is a lot, lot more and that's what has them up in a snit
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder Isn't it great when bias and partisanship get in the way of common sense? Posts 49 and 50 make me sick.
Originally Posted By Spree ^So you are disputing the fact that this is really no cut but just a smaller raise then expected? I can understand why my post(50) makes a liberal sick(it was a little harsh..sorry) but Dougs post(49) simply asks a question with no rancor whatsoever .....perhaps your liberal sources don't wish to reveal an answer to what seems to me an innocent question.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder So yeah, I;m disputing that that this is really no cut. Where the hell does that come from? ANybody but me posts about this and Doug doesn't take issue. Guaranteed.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "I dispute all bad liberal ideas, no matter who posts them." Are there monsters under every bed in your house? This is yet another attempt to re-frame a basic concept. Bad budget cuts are bad budget cuts, no matter who makes them.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Bad budget cuts are bad budget cuts, no matter who makes them.> Citing a couple of liberal press releases does not make something a bad budget cut. Again, how much is the Federal government spending on this program now, and how much are the GOP proposing to spend in the future?
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Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <You're pathetic.> Once again, you choose to engage in personal attacks rather than respond with facts.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder The following is an excerpt froman in-house memo being circulated aroud our department this morning. It matter of factly spells out what the proposed budget cuts would do to the child support program alone. It has no liberal/conservative bent, just a straightforward message about the real world consequences of budget cuts neccessitated by a war in Iraq, hurricanes and no new taxes. _______________________________ "The US House passed their budget bill last Friday 217 to 215 which would make huge cuts to the Child Support Program. The Senate budget version does not contain the cuts to Child Support and conference committee negotiations to reconcile the differences in the two budgets are expected to begin in December. The House budget bill cuts federal matching funds by up to 40% by 2010 but the reductions as proposed begin in FY 2007. The reductions to California are projected to be more than $3 Billion over 10 years. The reductions in child support collections for the state are estimated to be nearly $ 5 Billion over this 10 year period. Initial estimates show budget cuts of over $125 million for Los Angeles County alone during the first five years which would have a huge impact on our local program. Since Los Angeles collects almost 22 % of the state's total child support collections it appears that over a 10 year period we would have a loss to children and families in our county of over $1 Billion in child support payments."
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder And here's more- <a href="http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_3240245" target="_blank">http://www.presstelegram.com/n ews/ci_3240245</a>
