The McCain "Offensive"

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    Originally Posted By WilliamK99

    Finally, these occasional rants from lurkers (you're a great guy William, but you need to participate more instead of just showing up and popping off) make me think my original theory was correct. They don't even know why they don't like Obama. They just grasp at any possible straw they can to demonstrate why he's just so bad. He just is.<<

    I am hardly a lurker..My internet access is spotty at best and I come here whenever I get a chance...
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    Sarah Palin is on the attack. She's accusing Obama of palling around with terrorists.
    This is disgusting and disturbing to say the least.

    <a href="http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/04/palin-accuses-obama-palling-terrorists/" target="_blank">http://elections.foxnews.com/2...rorists/</a>

    This is one of the most bothersome parts of this article in my opinion, and it's not even about him palling around with Bill Ayers:

    "The McCain campaign has indicated it will step up its attacks on Obama's character and judgment in the final month of campaigning.

    Palin, for instance, said on Friday that some of Obama's statements on America's foreign policy should disqualify him from being president.

    "Some of his comments that he has made about the war that I think may -- in my world -- disqualifies someone from consideration as the next commander in chief," Palin told FOX News. "Some of his comments about Afghanistan and what we are doing there, supposedly just air-raiding villages and killing civilians. That's reckless." "
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    I've mentioned this here before, but is it wrong to be concerned about the civilians killed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Apparently Palin thinks it is.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    Some of the comments she has said, I mean A LOT of the comments she has said, in my world, should disqualify someone from consideration as the next Vice President.
     
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    Originally Posted By mele

    "in my world"
    "as I understand it"

    Ugh, I hate this kind of stuff.
     
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    Originally Posted By DyGDisney

    Mele, you know I was just parroting her, right?!
     
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    Originally Posted By mele

    Yes.

    Clearly, McCain/Palin are not the only mavericks around here! ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    William, it's good to hear from you. Hope all is well with you. Hang in there.
     
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    Originally Posted By ecdc

    >>I am hardly a lurker..My internet access is spotty at best and I come here whenever I get a chance...<<

    My apologies. I thought you were back in the states these days. Best of luck, and always good to hear from you.
     
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    Originally Posted By hopemax

    > I will not sit still though while the media basically hands the election to one man.

    Maybe these will help. The Center for Media and Public affairs at George Mason University is the one that published the proof of the "liberal media bias," a few years back.

    <a href="http://www.cmpa.com/" target="_blank">http://www.cmpa.com/</a>

    The results don't include the last month, and perhaps we will see that as the economy turned the coverage turned.

    It's also interesting that the media declared McCain winner of the first debate, and Palin earned a draw. However, the polling of the people returned a different answer, and then off the media went.
     
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    Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder

    Palin was just up the road from me in Carson saying Obama "palled around" with terrorists such as Bill Ayers, eve though the connection between them is tenuous at best.

    <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/04/palin.obama/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITI...dex.html</a>

    "Obama's Chicago, Illinois, home is in the same neighborhood as Bill Ayers, a founder of the radical Weather Underground, which was involved in several bombings in the early 1970s, including the Pentagon and the Capitol, and the two have met several times since Obama's 1995 campaign for a state Senate seat.

    Palin cited an article in Saturday's New York Times about Obama's relationship with Ayers, now 63. But that article concluded that "the two men do not appear to have been close. Nor has Mr. Obama ever expressed sympathy for the radical views and actions of Mr. Ayers, whom he has called 'somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8.' "

    Several other publications, including the Washington Post, Time magazine, the Chicago Sun-Times, The New Yorker and The National Review, have debunked the idea that Obama and Ayers had a close relationship. Watch CNN's Truth Squad examine Palin claims ยป"

    Anyone who supports this woman or this ticket should be ashamed of themselves. Now they're simply outright lying and admitting it at the same time. It's disgusting. Idiots, one and all.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    ***for arguments sake, name a substantial piece of Legislation protecting our economy that the Democrats have put in front of the President the last 2 years...

    I only want 1....***

    Only one?

    Okay, H.R. 1427, The Federal Housing Finance Reform Act of 2007

    H.R. 1427 would reform the regulation of certain housing-related Government-sponsored enterprises.

    <a href="http://www.washingtonwatch.com/bills/show/110_HR_1427.html" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonwatch.com...427.html</a>

    There's a reason why the McCain folks are NOT even attempting to use this argument, but rather sending out Palin to complain about Obama and his "terrorist ties".
     
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    Originally Posted By chickendumpling

    <<I cannot believe how liberal this board has become, almost sickening...>>

    It's not just "liberals" posting in this thread. Matter of fact, most conservatives don't like McCain and consider him a Democrat on almost everything but terrorism and the war.

    But just because someone doesn't like the stuff McCain is pulling and thinks Palin is not a good choice and is so frustrated they can't not talk about it, doesn't mean they're Liberal.

    Not that there's anything wrong with that. ;)
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    ***Matter of fact, most conservatives don't like McCain and consider him a Democrat on almost everything but terrorism and the war.***

    If McCain were 10 years younger and not so horribly tainted by his recent misbehavior, I would love to have seen him and Lieberman form a new, "centrist" party bringing together a group of moderate politicians together who were dedicated to strong (but rational) defense, fiscal conservatism, and tough on privacy and personal issues.

    *sigh*
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    Mega-dittos, Mr X.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    Deeper and deeper into the mud we go ...

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjEKRIBDv6Q" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...KRIBDv6Q</a>

    <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C3383QdT2g" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...383QdT2g</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    No surprise there.

    I still note, however, that while the tone keeps getting nastier and nastier (old habits die hard, I guess)..the content is just old news.

    Not looking good for poor old Mr. McCain if this is the best he can do.
     
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    Originally Posted By mele

    Nevermind the fact that, at the time Obama said it, our troops *were* killing more civilians than insurgents. Palin mentioned that in the debates, too.

    <a href="http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/dishonorable.html" target="_blank">http://www.factcheck.org/elect...ble.html</a>
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>the content is just old news.<<

    X ... repeat this sentence 50 times until you believe it, grok it, and live it:

    CONTENT DOESN'T MATTER.

    CONTENT DOESN'T MATTER.

    CONTENT DOESN'T MATTER.

    CONTENT DOESN'T MATTER.

    CONTENT DOESN'T MATTER.

    The judges didn't award Muhammad Ali points for his poetry.
     
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    Originally Posted By Mr X

    Facts matter. ;)
     

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