Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>Forget statistics or science, and just look at the attendance figures of the Florida theme parks for 2010: Magic Kingdom: 19.9 million Epcot: 10.8 million Disney's Animal Kingdom: 9.68 million Disney's Hollywood Studios: 9.6 million TOTAL: Just under 47 million Universal's Islands of Adventure: 5.94 million Universal Studios Florida: 5.92 million TOTAL: Just under 12 million Now, in light of the facts (47 million vs. 12 million), explain how this shows that many, if not most guests heading to Florida are now including Universal in their trip.<<< First of all, you have to have something over a period of time to compare it too. All that tells you is that for 2010 WDW was King. Now if you can compare 2011 numbers with 2010 numbers then we might be able to see a trend developing. This would be the year of the big change. With the information given...how do we know that in 2009 WDW might have had 50 Mil. vs. Uni's 9 Mil. That might also show a trend. One years statistics show nothing about trend.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 ""EMH inflates the number how ?"" By keeoing the turnstyles clicking THREE HOURS after the parks been open. And summer Fridays EMH was as busy as if it was the middle of the day. 75min waits for Space at 1130pm and the park closes at 2. Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.........
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Islands of Adventures had a 30% increase in attendance from 2009 to 2010 and Harry Potter was only open around 6 months. I would expect you could surmise that those guests came from somewhere.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 how many came from the Uni AP's- which skyrocketed- and with only two parks are very cheap ? I don't think anyone is saying no one went from Disney to IOA- that would make no sense- a lot ofpeople are theme park fans period But are some of those peole 'new fans' just because of Potter- I would also say yes. Also the premise people are giving up Disney days for that may or may not be accurate. We did not do that- we added a day to our trip as did a few others i know. Did some cut a day or two off Disney for IOA now- I am sure they did I don't think there's any one scenario that fits across the board.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 true, but as someone who travels from Orlando to NYC several times a year, this is the first year that I have met people coming down who tell me that they are skipping Disney and doing Universal. In all my years of travelling I had never heard that before. Usually it was...we are going to Disney and maybe another park if we have time. But I have been truly shocked at the number of people I have talked to in the airport or on a plane who are skipping Disney. So much so I said something to a friend in upper mgmt at Disney. They are aware. I would also say vbdad, that you are not the average traveler. You are a proud DVC owner, a big Disney fan and the proud father of a Disney CM. I don't think you or I are good examples of the average Orlando traveler.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<But I have been truly shocked at the number of people I have talked to in the airport or on a plane who are skipping Disney. >> Yup. Since 2008 I've flown to Orlando 2-3 times a year. Since Potter opened I've seen more people going to Universal for their trips than Disney.
Originally Posted By ChiMike It is very clear to me that some of Disney's loyal customer base have gone from one day at Universal to Universal-only Orlando trips.
Originally Posted By leobloom If you can't find where Disney has said that in writing, you'll never get Doug to believe it.
Originally Posted By macnak81 HMButler79 post # 142 . I'm confused < By keeoing the turnstyles clicking THREE HOURS after the parks been open. And summer Fridays EMH was as busy as if it was the middle of the day. 75min waits for Space at 1130pm and the park closes at 2. Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> if the park closes at 11:30? and the are 75 min waits at 2am? Are you saying the counters count after the park closes? how do the counters count after the park is closed
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>If you can't find where Disney has said that in writing, you'll never get Doug to believe it.<< Actually, Disney hasn't said ANYTHING about attendance figures in writing. That has been left up to others. What I do not believe is that most guests traveling to Orlando are now skipping days at Disney to head over to UNI. There is plenty of anecdotal information that some guests are doing just that. But "many" (a very subjective term) is doubtful, and "most" is just plain wrong, based on the statistics. That's all.
Originally Posted By danyoung >What I do not believe is that most guests traveling to Orlando are now skipping days at Disney to head over to UNI.< There you go, bringing logic into this. Isn't that like bringing a gun to a knife fight?
