Originally Posted By EdisYoda I have it on good authority that this particular photo was a plant by the Popcornians in an effort to discredit the Churoians. It didn't work then, and it won't work now.
Originally Posted By DismayingObservation Mmm...seals. Lots of Omega 3. Speaking as a charter member of the Popcornians, may I state that churros, while tasty, are best used as a blunt instrument as opposed to as a source of nutrition. Popcorn is prepared before your eyes. Churros are created in a dark and dingy industrial bakery and shipped frozen. No, if I want my carbohydrates from other than the Font of Redenbacher, I stagger blindly toward "it's a small world" for the immensely satisfying and immesurably more interesting cream cheese-filled pretzel. Mmm...pretzels.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>The trains look very similar to the existing ones.<<< Oh, I don't agree with that at all. Getting back to DlandDug's picture from post #79, click on it to get the enlarged version, and study the bottom portion carefully. There is a "side by side" comparison (over and under more like it) of the colored elevation of the Mark VII over a line drawing elevation of the current Mark V. Although some features are similar (they are both monorails, afterall), the overall looks are quite different. The Mark VII's nose is longer and rounded, and it hangs out forward over the rail further then the Mark V's, allowing for more of the curved glass to happen along the sides. The side color band on the Mark V's runs the length of the train just underneath the windows... on the Mark VII, it drops down much lower and runs along the side fins, and there is a band of white between the bottom of the windows and the color band. And is it just me, or is this an optical illusion or what, but... does it appear to anyone else the the current Mark V is actually TALLER than the Mark VII?? Sure seems so from this comparison picture, assuming both versions are represented at the same scale. All in all, I still stand by my original assertion that the new monorail Mark VII looks like a big earthworm.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss When I say they look similar, I am referring to the body p[ortion only, sans the nose cone. Look at the two elevations again, and you'll see that the passenger compartment areas are virtually identical in shape and size. IMO all it looks like their doing is grafting a new nosecone on, and adding brightwork to the sides (I'll be interested to see if it's merely all paint, or if the band running over the top of the nose and beneath the windows is a metallic strip.)
Originally Posted By iluvdisneyland Re: Post #91 DismayingObservation, my child, you are severely mistaken. Being a Steward in Outdoor Vending, I could tell you things about all three (popcorn, churros, and pretzels) that would make you never want to even think of any of them ever again. But I can't and I won't. The Most Holy Churro is a little piece of heaven on earth. Popcorn is Satan's snackfood and is popped in the bowels of hell.
Originally Posted By monorailblue And, as it turns out, many Costco food courts now sell churros which are bigger, fresher, crispier and chewier (all at the same time) and, generally, more staisfying than D-land ones, all for $1 and tax. I haven't bought a Disneyland one in probably 10 years---but I now indulge in Costco churros. Mmmm. And speaking of "can't tell" stories, I once fixed the dish machine in Carnation Main Street and what I found inside (i.e., the problem) should not be discussed in polite company. (Actually, it was more of a "how in earth?" than an "ewwww!", but still . . . . )
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "Look at the two elevations again, and you'll see that the passenger compartment areas are virtually identical in shape and size." Exactly.
Originally Posted By iluvdisneyland "And speaking of "can't tell" stories, I once fixed the dish machine in Carnation Main Street and what I found inside (i.e., the problem) should not be discussed in polite company. (Actually, it was more of a "how in earth?" than an "ewwww!", but still . . . " And I completely believe it! )
Originally Posted By FormerDiz What's interesting is there seems to be only 3 trains on that drawing board. They had 4 Mark V trains, I figured they'd make 4 Mark VII trains.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>"Look at the two elevations again, and you'll see that the passenger compartment areas are virtually identical in shape and size."<<< Well, the original press release from the composites company specifically only stated they were building the nose and tail sections, so that would track. But that's not to say that the two versions look just like each other.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig BTW, after posting my #99 just now, and went back and looked at the picture again, and I stand by my assertion. Of course the mid sections are going to be identical shape and size... they have to fit on the rail afterall, and they have to fit under the same overhead obstructions. But please, look again at the comparisons... the windows, while similar, are definately different. And if you need me to take the time to definitively point out the differences, I will. But I think y'all can see for yourself if you look closely enough.
Originally Posted By Dave >>>And why is it that when I click next in Dug's photo album I see this<<< Well stop being so nosey and looking around Mr entry level CM
Originally Posted By DismayingObservation Re: Post 94 "Popped in the bowels of hell?" Think I'll stick with the trail mix you get on Main Street. Please tell me those really are raisins in the trail mix, even if you have to lie to me, O Steward. If you prefer, we can coordinate a meeting at the Land of Mouse at a future date to discuss the details in private. The secretary will disavow any knowledge of our meeting.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "But please, look again at the comparisons... the windows, while similar, are definately different." ArchtMig, I think the point is that there isn't enough of a difference in the design of the new trains to really distinguish them from the previous ones. Yes, the colors are a big difference and there a few other details, but I think the overall visual impact of the new trains on the Resort will be minimal. I'm happy knowing that new trains are in the pipeline, but I'm rather unimpressed with their design, which looks to be very much business as usual. There's really nothing special about them.
