Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >And this is where I think the system is wrong. It is not fair to the person who is sick, and worse, to the others who might catch it.< My roommate gave the entire staff he was working with (and god only knows how many guests) the flu, because Cinemark wouldn't let him call in sick. He had to go in with the Flu or get fired.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>He had to go in with the Flu or get fired.<< This is what's crazy and all too common. It makes more sense for a company to eat that day's sick pay than it does to have the person come in and take down a whole department. If someone is abusing the sick leave, fine, deal with that. But to constantly make employees feel like slackers because they are genuinely ill is short-sighted to say the least.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Sorry Labuda...all the cute Yankee men have moved to North Carolina. Now if you mean cute, young Yankee men...there might be a few still there.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 My company gives us off for Memorial Day, Labor Day, Christmas, Thanksgiving, New Years, 4th of July and starting next year MLK. For the 4th, New Years and Christmas depending on when the holidays fall we usually get an extra day. If they fall on a Monday it's usually no big deal to me because I don't work on Monday's
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Because of the number of years I put in I have accumulated 25 days of vacation. I've also carried over 7 days from last year giving me 32 days of vacation. Now take away Monday's since I'm already off. I've only scheduled 24 days this year.
Originally Posted By mele The schools here are pretty pissy if you send your kid to school when they're sick, even when they've just got that residual cough for weeks after a cold.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo It goes from one extreme to the other. I remember as a kid, I had a really bad accident and was in a wheelchair (time off work for mom, and when the insurance ran out due to complications, more expenses), then my grand mother had a heart attack, then I had a gastric bug, and mom had more time off - that third strike cost her the job, and that, added with the medical bills, nearly cost us the house too. I was 8 at the time.....
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 One thing I'm proud to put in the yay Damon file is in my twelve years of working I have(knock wood) never called in sick. And I've only left early once because I was sick and that didn't include me passing a kidney stone a month ago.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I wish I were as healthy as you DDMAN26. Sadly I was born 11 weeks premature and have a low immune system, I catch everything going. This is why I particularly get angry at those that come in sick. They give it to the rest of us.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "I really angers me that companies demand this, yet they will throw you out the door and send your job to India or China to save a buck. I knew people at HP who worked 70-80 hours a week, and still got laid off." Yeah, I get upset by this too. Companies expect extreme loyalty, yet don't extend the same to the employees. They will cut in an instant to save the bottom line. It's only a one-way street.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Dave I won't say I'm a temple of health, cheeseburgers and beer have seen to that. But I've lucked out so far.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Number 1 reason I left big corporate? I got tired of laying good people off as their jobs were outsourced or offshored. At first I was under the illusion is was sparing the very best to stay in a healthy company. But by the 3rd time, I knew it was greed motivation, by the 6th, I resigned.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>But by the 3rd time, I knew it was greed motivation, by the 6th, I resigned.<< I remember the time I was laid off. It was part of a mass layoff and I will never forget the look on the manager's face (my boss's boss) who intercepted me in a hallway and asked me to follow him to a conference room. He read the "bad news" to me from a script in a deadpan monotone. I later heard that he told some people there that day was the worse one in his whole career. He had NO input on who was let go that day. I will never, ever work again for Corporate America if I can help it. You are nothing more than an expendible cog in a huge machine. My worst, most boring and unfullfilling jobs were in Corporate America (except at HP when Bill and Dave still ran it). Never again.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo The only good company is one with visionary leaders, whether mom and pop, or big, it needs vision. I used to vomit every morning I would lay people off. The day I resigned, I laid off a husband and wife, I didn't know they were married. A part of me died a little that day.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Companies expect extreme loyalty, yet don't extend the same to the employees. They will cut in an instant to save the bottom line. It's only a one-way street.<< This x10. I know there are good companies out there - usually smaller ones but even some big corporations. But most expect loyalty bordering on cultish, yet when the hard times come, employees are often the first to go. As Business 101 teaches, on the corporate balance sheet, employees fall under "liabilities," not "assets."
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Funny thing is, short term cuts make a small diference. Salami slicing is not the answer, you have to change the game, not skimp on the players.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>Funny thing is, short term cuts make a small diference. Salami slicing is not the answer, you have to change the game, not skimp on the players.<< Well sure...if you're interested in long-term viability. But Wall Street operates quarter to quarter. That is all they care about. If you show growth every quarter, that's it. If your company stops doing that, then investors will simply sell and your stock will drop. There's no Helen Lovejoy to say, "Won't someone please think of the employees!" If a company can be long-term viable and grow quarterly, great. But quarter-profits will come first every time. If there's a rough patch, people will jump ship rather than ride it out.
Originally Posted By Labuda "This is a common trend in corporate America these days. They are combining sick days and vacation days to just give you a block of time to use." Oddly, the only people I know who are experiencing this are my co-workers who work for ATOS Origin, a Belgian company. "You work at Dell, correct?" Yeppers! "Where I work I have to pay for short term disability insurance, so that if I end up out of comission for a few weeks I'll get paid 70% of my regular salary." Seriously? 70%??? I LOVE DELL! Our short term disability is limited to 4 weeks before it becomes longterm, but it's 100% pay based on a 40-hr work week.
Originally Posted By Labuda "Sorry Labuda...all the cute Yankee men have moved to North Carolina. Now if you mean cute, young Yankee men...there might be a few still there." I just want one who's somewhere between 29 & 45 or so.
