Originally Posted By FaMulan Biden answered questions more directly than Palin did imo. When the moderator asked about weaknesses, Palin did not mention a one. Biden coped to the fact that he did have weaknesses. Palin did more dodging of important questions and as someone with Jewish heritage, I completely disagree with her on two-state solution for Israel. I'm just sorry they didn't get into women's rights more deeply, though Biden did mention Roe v Wade, because many women do not know where their knight in nylons stands on important women's issues.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I think she may have killed 2ooney!<< LOL! Damn near! If people like that schmaltzy folksy crap, ooohhhhh, the paaaaiiinnn..... One more nose scrunch from her and I would have gone into diabetic shock...
Originally Posted By DAR <<The folksy crap was ridiculous, but maybe that's what people out there enjoy>> You mean stuff that regular Americans enjoy. That's what people do, they go to church. They go to their daughter's dance recitals. Their son's little league games. We like shopping at Target and Home Depot. There never was anything wrong with that lifestyle. There never is anything wrong with that lifestyle. And there never will be anything wrong with that lifestyle. Maybe you wouldn't get that if you don't grow up in the midwest.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>So did she hold her own? Or did she hold somebody else's own? I don't know.<< In a word: Platitudes That's what she was all about!
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Ah, that's one thing I miss about being in America, ALL the pundits and talking heads weighing in. Here in Australia, there was a 10 minute wrap up basically saying they both did well, although Biden was the winner and then back to local news here. I have to wait until someone post on youtube having Keith Olbermann tell us why Biden killed or O'Reilly why Palin killed .
Originally Posted By Lisann22 It's patronizing BS DAR, you're trying to spin what people are intending in saying "folksy" with something entirely different. She was patronizing and golly gee whiz. I don't want that in my VP or President. I want coherent sentences and deep thinking.
Originally Posted By chickendumpling As a mom, a woman, etc., etc., I was offended by the schmaltzy stuff. I'm not an idiot. Stop trying to suck up to me, stop pandering me. It came of as completely disingenuous to me. Totally turned me off.
Originally Posted By chickendumpling DAR, I thought you said you weren't going to watch it because you had more important things to do.
Originally Posted By Lisann22 <<<As a mom, a woman, etc., etc., I was offended by the schmaltzy stuff. I'm not an idiot. Stop trying to suck up to me, stop pandering me. It came of as completely disingenuous to me. Totally turned me off.>>> Amen sister. That's what I've been saying for 5 weeks now. Why do people think this crap will fly with women? It's an insult to our intelligence.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>You mean stuff that regular Americans enjoy.<< No, I mean the condescending "lemme explain it to ya'" phony crap. CLOYING.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan As a mom, a woman, etc., etc., I was offended by the schmaltzy stuff. I'm not an idiot. Stop trying to suck up to me, stop pandering me. It came of as completely disingenuous to me. Totally turned me off.<< THANK YOU! <--- heart rate lowering, a little...
Originally Posted By mawnck Not sure how the Palin schmaltz will play to the middle, but it might work. It struck me as mighty phoney, but I'm biased. It's gonna be Biden's choke up on the news tomorrow though. Mark my words.
Originally Posted By ecdc I think the only reason we're saying she "held her own" is because she didn't vomit all over the podium. She didn't completely embarrass herself, so apparently she "held her own." Sorry, I'm not buying it. I didn't hear a single thing that made me think "Maybe Palin does gave a better grasp on the issues than I thought.
Originally Posted By hopemax Wow! 479 posts I just read! Sarah Palin did about what I thought she would do. She would have prepared answers for a variety of subjects. It was obvious to me that she was delivering her prepared statements, full of buzz words. Joe Biden mentioned education, and she was "Oh, can we talk about education? And then rattled off an education talking point. What was strange though, was the first two answers she gave, I was like, "um, isn't she on the Republican ticket and not the Democratic ticket?" So while there was no deer in the headlights freeze, there was no nuance there was no thoughtfulness. I feel like the only thing I learned about Sarah Palin was that she can memorize and regurgitate talking points. There was one point, when I felt we got to see the real Sarah Palin, and that was the questions about energy. In that question you could see her engage Biden, and give something other than a flashcard answer. I think this was a debate where immediately afterwards you think, she did okay. But I think YouTube is going to kill her. Too much evasiveness, too much folksy, but no real substance. Joe Biden talks about losing his wife and daughter, and not knowing if his child will survive, Sarah Palin can not even acknowledge him, and rattles off yet another answer about mavericks. How disconnected can someone be?
Originally Posted By DAR <<DAR, I thought you said you weren't going to watch it because you had more important things to do.>> I caught bits at the end so I didn't get to see it. But I'm tired of those on the holier than thou attitude that those on the coasts tend to take of people in Middle America.
Originally Posted By Mr X Wow, this thread is rackin up points like some sort of inverse Dow Industrial Average chart!
Originally Posted By Lisann22 <<<I caught bits at the end so I didn't get to see it. But I'm tired of those on the holier than thou attitude that those on the coasts tend to take of people in Middle America.>>> What the heck are you talking about?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>But I'm tired of those on the holier than thou attitude that those on the coasts tend to take of people in Middle America.<< Who's being holier than thou?
