Originally Posted By Mr X I do love the peoplemover anyway...and I was just about to ride it in Orlando last month, but I had to meet my party soon and the guy told me the ride took 20 minutes so I had to skip it (bummer...the rest of my party was uninterested, to say the least!).
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo The Peoplemover is honestly one of my fav attractions Disney has ever created. DL is not the same without it, and I love it at the MK. It's one of the reasons I find Discoveryland somewhat lacking at DLP. I was really surprised a few years ago to find out TDL did not have one.
Originally Posted By Mr X Never had one, and honestly I think that was a big mistake. The land is really lacking in kinetic "stuff", although port discovery does improve on things a bit (the train (though a bit out of place), the aquatopia, and some other minor stuff that really adds to it. I feel that my idea about an interpark peoplemover would significantly improve BOTH parks, ESPECIALLY since port discovery and tomorrowland are relatively close to each other...a peoplemover could easily be built to take advantage of that fact...but of course noone cares about my little opinion lol.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I do, because that is an awesome idea (provided you didn't see backstage in between)
Originally Posted By Mr X Thanks. Well, my assumption would be that the inter-park park would pretty much follow the monorail route, until splitting off and heading through the trees behind Tomorrowland (and easy bridge to make, I think), so you wouldn't see any more or less of the backstage (or parking lots) than the monorail does. I know you haven't been to the Tokyo resort, but if you had I could kinda show you the route I have mapped out in my head (GEEZ, I'm such a geek! ).
Originally Posted By Mr X Actually, knowing the terrain as I do, it would be a very simple matter to conceal the backstage stuff with a couple of short covered bridges (show scenes, maybe...something transitional), or, even better, a quasi-rocket rods deal where you pick up speed and do a few twists and turns to take the backstage stuff away from the interest of lurking eyes (not completely, but certainly better than the TDL monorail does, or even the Magic Kingdom loop where backstage is pretty obvious if you know what to look for). Of course, there's also the matter of having cars that let you off ONLY in TDL or TDS, depending on where you board...and even a neat twist if you could provide a park-hopper/2pk AP and be able to get off at either point (more incentive to purchase those currently silly and inflexible park-hoppers).
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "GEEZ, I'm such a geek!" - Takes one to know one .... oooops. GEEk = Great Energetic Enthusiastic King of knowledge! I'll tell you what, why don't you and I go out for a beer and we talk it over!
Originally Posted By Mr X See ya soon then! Oh, and to "geek on", if I may... <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yvk339" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yvk339</a> Hopefully you can get an idea of the terrain here...locate round Space Mountain as a point of reference. Space is actually at the "far" end of Tomorrowland as far as my idea is concerned, the attraction would probably wrap around there at some point. You can see that there really ISN'T much space between the two lands...the biggest issue would be going around (or through?) Indy...then, you've got almost no ground to cover before you are in Tomorrowland. It is ENTIRELY feasible...imho.
Originally Posted By Mr X Another part of the reason I selected these two areas (Tomorrowland/Port Discovery) as connection points is because of the relative dearth of backstage "stuff" between them. Essentially, two service roads which run employee buses and nothing more. In fact, some pretty banks of trees and scenery can be seen there. A little to the side, you can see that the parks are pretty much "connected at the hip", with Fantasyland and the Arabian Coast almost touching each other (you could actually, with no infrastructure adjustment, run a parade through both parks there!), and lots of backstage buildings and the like...but not between PD and TL. Unused, but VERY useful I think. I have some other ideas of what to do to connect fantasyland to DisneySea...but I'll hold off on talking about THAT stuff til Disney pays me for my first idea.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo That could totally work, but sadly that would render the monorail redundant for some users reducing the revenues I would think. A real shame. I heard they have now taken the peoplemover they had at Houston airport out now. I am such a Disney geek, that when we were in Texas in 1985, there were only two places I was bothered about seeing - the Alamo and the Peoplemover at the airport!
Originally Posted By Mr X I dunno...how many APers actually use the monorail? Not many, I think. Plus, the monorail is more for hotel guests I think.
Originally Posted By Mr X **reducing the revenues I would think** Another interesting point here is the fact that, if stories I've heard are true, the monorail revenues don't go to Disney at all! They are passed on to the Japan Railways company, and serve as a completely seperate "monorail company" deal. According to people I've talked too (and Lee can probably add more...as I don't really know the details) Disney really wanted the monorail to be free. But, according to Japanese law that was impossible. It's really funny to see the monorail stations set up just like some other Japanese rail company (complete with automated ticket machines and identical turnstyles among other things).
Originally Posted By Mr X But, even if revenues were an issue, it would still be a simple matter to keep park patrons in one park or another, and only ride over to "preview" the other place.
Originally Posted By Mr X That sort of attraction could actually serve to INCREASE monorail patronage, could it not? Perhaps we could get Japan Railways to sponsor the attraction! A nice little spiel about "and here's "Port Discovery", just a short monorail journey away should you chose to visit...etc... (I was born to market this crap, huh? )
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Now you see, that could be the coolest thing. Imagine being in TDS and taking the Peoplemover over to TDL to see a snippet of Dreamlights, or just popping over from Tomorrowland to see an explosion of Mt Promethius.
Originally Posted By MagicalNezumi The monorail is owned and operated by the Maihama Resort Line Co. Ltd. which is a subsidiary of OLC. One of OLC's biggest stockholders is Keisei Electric Railway, so I don't think they are paying JR. -- MagicalNezumi
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I heard they have now taken the peoplemover they had at Houston airport out now. >>> No, it's still in operation. I rode it just two weeks ago. It's underground, and connects all of the terminals landside. In fact, they remodeled the entire length of the tunnel a few years ago, replacing the ceiling and lighting. The route is almost a mile long (it's like 4900' or something like that) in one direction, so there's nearly two miles of track to ride the complete loop. It also stops in the basement of the Marriott hotel. There's a walkway between the tracks, so you can walk the entire path on foot if you wanted to. What you may be thinking of is the addition of an above-ground train airside that connects terminals B, C, D, and E. It's much faster and behind security, so it's really for a different purpose.
Originally Posted By barboy "is the addition of an above-ground train airside that connects terminals B, C, D, and E. It's much faster and behind security, so it's really for a different purpose." If that thing is what I'm thinking ..... I was on it when it was fresh off the grill(so it appeared anyway)---- but I'm not terribly sure. I seem to remember being on an above ground tram at Houston in August of '06. Am I making any sense Dry? or do I have it wrong?