Originally Posted By TDLFAN Brokeback and Felicity were robbed (even if I already suspected Crash would crash the expectations... and I mentioned this here on another related topic).
Originally Posted By Ursula I think Charlize knew ahead of time she'd be bored. So, THAT'S why her dress came with a pillow sewn onto the shoulder.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Now I got to see "Crash". I'm ~sure~ Matt Dillon is worth the trip to the movie theater :~ Sure .. there was a lot hype to "Brokeback" going into the Oscars. But I guess "Crash" is that much better of a film - overall.
Originally Posted By Ursula <LOL And what was with the pillow stuffed up under her hair? ;-)> That was in case her head nodded back too quickly... to avoid whiplash.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Dear Ursula, You are on a roll---put some butter on you! Sincerely, TDG
Originally Posted By Ursula OOOOOHHHHHHHH I forgot. The "In Memorium" thingie is wrong. Our former President and Re-Recording Mixer Buzz Knudson was listed in last night's show and he passed away in late January 2006. It was the first time I knew someone on that list and it's a very strange feeling, indeed.
Originally Posted By Ursula Am I the only one who misses that Billy Crystal song "Oscar, Oscar-Oscar?" I loved that.
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Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<Sure .. there was a lot hype to "Brokeback" going into the Oscars. But I guess "Crash" is that much better of a film - overall.>> Ummmmmmmm... I haven't seen "Crash" yet, and this is speculation, but FWIW... Based on reviews, I'm guessing that "Brokeback Mountain" was the better movie. My theory is that it was too gay to win Best Picture. Remember Jon Stewart's punchline-less joke about how Hollywood is viewed by the rest of the country as a den of liberal, hedonistic, sexual wickedness? That charge has been bandied about a lot since the conservatives were embolded by Bush's election. My guess is that Hollywood, the industry, is sensitive to that potentially business-hurting charge. I think they really liked "Brokeback" but couldn't bring themselves to let it win. Ergo, the Awards for Best Director and Best Screenplay but not best pic. Giving it Best Picture would have been too risky, so they compromised. "We can't have the gay film win. So let's give Best Picture to the film that has the ever-so-noble message that racism is bad. That'll look good. It wasn't the most subtle or artful film, but it was competent. But we'll definitely give Ang and Larry the Directing and Writing awards." I'm not given to making quick charges of discrimination based on sexual orientation. But I think that's what this was.
Originally Posted By theunion >>I'm not given to making quick charges of discrimination based on sexual orientation. But I think that's what this was.<< Sorry, but everyone did not get together and say, lets not give it to the gay film. I was just not a very good film, and really never should have been nominated at all.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 "theunion" Imagine. Another screenname that consists of a phrase, with no capital letters or spaces, that was created recently, and whose only reason to exist seems to be to smear "Brokeback Mountain." Oh, Mods... theunion, and thelegion of other names by which you're known... The fact that you cannot allow a positive comment about "Brokeback Mountain" go unchallenged, and that you go to such lengths to reinvent yourself so that you can make your uninformed posts, indicates that you've got some real issues. Get in touch with the inner you.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<I was just not a very good film>> Yeah, and you're not an especially good poster, either. So have you seen the film?
Originally Posted By theunion >>The fact that you cannot allow a positive comment about "Brokeback Mountain<< Crash won and was the better film, why not just move on it was just a movie. I was not the one who made BB lose it was thousands of people in Hollywood who knew it was not the best film at all. Oh and as far as my name that seems to upset you it's the name I use on all web pages and have for years.
Originally Posted By theunion Yes I have seen BB, and like most people thought it was an ok film, but not great by a long shot.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Inspector, I've heard in the entertainment shows I do at work that people are largely speculating that "Brokeback" didn't win because of, not it's gay content, but the fact that it skyrocketed in such popularity, and that the Academy voters "don't like to be 'told'" who to vote for (which is kinda silly, but that's another topic). It was refreshing though to see that most people in the industry think it was due to the timing and "pop culture" of it and not any intolerance that stopped it from winning. It's not fact, but it'd be nice to see it proven that prejudice wasn't a factor.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 LOL! You're a total fraud, "theunion." You didn't see the movie. Word of mouth was great on this film. That's what the "hype" you despise consists of. Viewers loved this movie. Time to move on to a different site to do your trolling.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy By the way, your speculation of the Academy's reasoning for not giving it "Best Picture" makes perfect sense, it's just a sadder theory.
