Originally Posted By theunion >>LOL! You're a total fraud, "theunion." You didn't see the movie. Word of mouth was great on this film. That's what the "hype" you despise consists of. Viewers loved this movie.<< Now if you don't like BB you are a fraud. You sound like a Nazi, if you don't agree with you, you are in trouble. Shame on you for such intolerance of others opinions.
Originally Posted By theunion >>but the fact that it skyrocketed in such popularity,<< Hate to tell you but 70 million plus is not such great popularity. It is a best a moderate success, and with all the free press it was given, really a failure at the box office.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 You there, "theunion"? Or have you flown to spread your hate elsewhere?
Originally Posted By theunion >>Or have you flown to spread your hate elsewhere?<< now it's hate if you don't like your movie, you are crazy at the very least.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 Okay, "theunion," you have three minutes to answer this quiz. It's a no-brainer for anyone who's seen "Brokeback Mountain." 1) Of the two leading men and their wives, how many of them smoked? 2) How did the boss know that there had been a problem with the sheep over the summer? 3) Where did Jack meet the second man with whom he would've co-managed his parents' homestead? 4) Which kid was a "Jr"? 5) Did anyone do pills in the movie? Drink scotch? Smoke dope? 6) When Ennis went to Mexico, how did he get in trouble? 7) What did Jack sell? 8) Name three of Ennis' jobs. 9) When did we see a clown out of makeup? 10) Which appliance gave them trouble on Thanksgiving?
Originally Posted By theunion This is not me, please read. Digging much deeper into how the film works, Steven D. Greydanus (Decent Films) writes, "Brokeback Mountain is a work of art, more concerned with telling a story about characters than with making sure that the viewer feels a certain way about a moral issue." He continues, "That's not to say that Brokeback Mountain doesn't have a point of view. It does have a point of view—a profoundly problematic one, one that makes it potentially far more insidious than mere propaganda. All the same, it doesn't commit the artistic fraud of shaping every single element in its story to move the viewer's sympathies in one and only one direction. That sort of one-sidedness is increasingly the single thing that I find most quickly sabotages a film's persuasiveness; nothing else so glaringly announces that the filmmaker himself hasn't really put his own point of view to the test, and doesn't trust the audience to see things his way unless he stacks the deck in his own favor."
Originally Posted By theunion I have one for you. The football game on television that causes some family friction during Jack's Christmas dinner is actually? If you don't know you never saw BB.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 So you saw the quiz and didn't have answers. You divert by providing a quote by someone else.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 "theunion," you liar and coward, there's actually a silver lining to your posting on LP. You provide a clear demonstration that uninformed hatred of gays is as real a phenomenon in 2006 as it was in Wyoming in 1963. That's the silver lining. The cloud is that jerks like you make life miserable for people who happen to be gay. People like you are responsible for the higher suicide rate among gay adolescents. Things will change. People viewing the powerful and extremely well-crafted movie "Brokeback Mountain" is one of the vehicles that will fuel the change. I can see how you would find that threatening.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy <Hate to tell you but 70 million plus is not such great popularity. It is a best a moderate success, and with all the free press it was given, really a failure at the box office.> Lol, you're confusing box office sucess with media and cultural success. It's obviously a milestone of a big stepping stone for more mainstream films which explore all sorts of people---same with "Transamerica". Films like this will only get bigger...
Originally Posted By scottie I saw Crash when it first came out on DVD. I saw BB and Walk the Line in the last couple of weeks. Crash left a lasting impression on me that BB and Walk the Line didn't. I'll have to see them all again to really judge whether my high expectations and hype had more to do with my perception than the actual quality of the films. Regardless, I was happy to see Crash win because I believe it was the most important film to see in 2005 if not the best.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Actually Brokeback has made quite a bit of money when compared to its budget which I think was about 10 million. Though I'm not sure how it even costs that much, the clips and previews I've show the tent in the mountains. As for the movie itself, I haven't seen it and I'm not sure if I want to. It has nothing to do with it being a gay love story. It has to do with it being a love story period. Those just aren't my types of films. I only saw Titanic and Pearl Harbor because of the significance of each event, the love story was just filler in both. In the case of Pearl Harbor, excruciating filler.
Originally Posted By da_tick I watched the Oscars off and on - mostly to see if the awards were going to mirror the Golden Globes. We saw Brokeback Mtn. and it was an okay film. Maybe I've seen too many movies with the formula of "secret love denied" with better actors. Several movie sites were calling BBM groundbreaking, but I've seen better. In terms of groundbreaking subject matter I thought Philadelphia with Tom Hanks and Denzel Washington was definitely much better. I also think that Far from Heaven had better acting with Julianne Moore and Dennis Quaid, and the storyline was better written. I wanted Walk the Line to win Best Picture, but I knew it was too similar to Ray for it to win.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo "Those are fighting words, my friend. You should know that Nick Park is the darling of the Oscars by now!" Doesn't mean I have to accept it. Look how long Spielburg was snubbed. The best does not always win. There may even be some politics involved as PArk lost his studios to fire last year. The early creature comforts work was very clever, but for me Chicken Run and Wallace and Gromit are totally overrated. Whereas Corpse Bride is a piece of art and Howl's Moving Castle has such an amazing storyline. I was not surprised, but I cannot stand by the academy's decision on this one.
Originally Posted By theunion >>The cloud is that jerks like you make life miserable for people who happen to be gay.<< People who choose to be gay do not have the right to stop free speech because they disagree with someone. You need psychological help because you have gotten so mean simply because someone did not like a film that you liked.
Originally Posted By theunion >>Regardless, I was happy to see Crash win because I believe it was the most important film to see in 2005 if not the best<< this makes you a bad person in 57'ns mind.
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Originally Posted By theunion >>I wanted Walk the Line to win Best Picture, but I knew it was too similar to Ray for it to win.<< Walk was the best film in that we agree
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<People who choose to be gay do not have the right to stop free speech because they disagree with someone. You need psychological help because you have gotten so mean simply because someone did not like a film that you liked.>> I'm not being mean. Nor am I attempting to stop free speech. I'm simply pointing out the fact that your speech on LP has been a big lie. And that you've come onto the boards dishonestly to spread your agenda. I wouldn't mind at all that someone disagreed with my assessment of a film. Well, that is, if they had actually seen the film. What I do mind is that you are using this thread as a platform to spread your anti-gay message.
