Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I have no idea who Kevin James is nor do I care. Its intresting that there is a thread about the "Republican noise machine", whatever that is. If there is anything that is prevalent in this country it is our media's pervasive and persistent parroting the rhetoric of the Democratic Party which glamorizes people like Cidy Sheehan and her ilk. This gargage appeals to the weak minded, entitlement mentality and the generally uneducated members of society. Many of these people seem to be so quick to throw this nation under the bus. I would find the Demoratic Presidential candidates more credible if their spouses, preachers, etc stopped saying things like "I'm embarressed to be an American" and "GD America". It would seem to me that its more difficult to win over the hearts of men and women when these Democratic Party sweethearts and the media that flaunts them have such contempt for our President, his Cabinet and our Republic.
Originally Posted By dshyates OK, this has really been bothering me. You do realize that when Rev. Wright said, "GD America" he was QUOTING the enemies of America. I just love when the right calls anyone else weak minded. "If there is anything that is prevalent in this country it is our media's pervasive and persistent parroting the rhetoric of the Democratic Party which glamorizes people like Cidy Sheehan and her ilk." Talk radio is the playground of simpletons.
Originally Posted By friendofdd >>>Talk radio is the playground of simpletons<<< Considering the name calling that occurs, one must consider where the political discussion boards lie.
Originally Posted By dshyates You have watched the entire Rev. Wright sermon, right? Or are you just repeating what the talking heads on FOX Newz and Talk Radio spew. Because frothing angry people that have no clue what they are talking about is always amusing.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh <Because frothing angry people that have no clue what they are talking about is always amusing.> Yeah, many liberals make me chuckle.
Originally Posted By dshyates Me too. Like the eco-terrorists. They were protesting the building of a restaurant on Vail Mt. because it was distroying habitat. So near the end of construction they burnt the place down. Along with the entire forast they were protesting to protect. Idiots. Or liberal stalwarts like Daryl Hannah who strapped herself to the top of a tree in a park because they were going to develop the real estate the park was on. Not to mention PETA. I'm as liberal as they come, but when the PETA representative is hanging outside of Ringling Bros. with protest signs and comes up to my kid and yells "Ask them about Joey, the baby elephant that died." So my daughter looks up at me and said "What happened to Joey?" I shrugged and said "He died?" Then I look at Ms PETA and said, "Its a shame, but the good thing is when they die young like that they're good and tender." She walked away without another word.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>What more moderate Republicans have missed while they've been so busy defending the party is that they aren't in charge anymore. The people in charge are the fans of Rush and Hannity...<< Really? Really? And yet, these were the folks who not only didn't support McCain, but were actively working against him. As I said before, I've never heard of this guy, and I doubt most people have, aside from the major blip he's getting from this dopey TV appearance. >>"It's a good thing the Democrats don't have a noise machine." If you're talking about Air America, then it's the equivalent of a four cylinder 1979 Datsun with an oil leak.<< And if we're talking Kevin James, he's the equivalent of a box of dead sparkplugs. Oh no, wait... he's the one who's really in charge of the party. No, I believe that was, he's not a spokesman for the party. What was he again? Oh yeah-- that dope on the Chris Matthews program. >>He's not as obscure as one might think.<< Noted.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>So, be honest guys, who here new who Neville Chamberlain was and what he did...<< I did. >>Obama has fired back on Bush's comments, pointing out that Nixon met with Mao and JFK met with Krushchev. However, this isn't really a fair retort since Bush probably has never heard of Mao or Krushchev...<< And it isn't a really valid comparison, since Mao and Kruschev were both leaders of foreign nations. >>There's an (attempted) Democratic noise machine too, (Air America and etc.) but it's not nearly so large or well organized.<< Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... (ie: that's funny.)
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>OK, this has really been bothering me. You do realize that when Rev. Wright said, "GD America" he was QUOTING the enemies of America.<< Ah, no. He was quoting no one. That was his own statement. The exact quote is as follows: "“When it came to putting the citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains. The government put them on slave quarters. Put them on auction blocks. Put them in cotton fields. Put them in inferior schools. Put them in substandard housing. Put them scientific experiments. Put them in the lower paying jobs. Put them outside the equal protection of the law. Kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education, and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three strike law and then wants us to sing God Bless America. Naw, naw, naw. Not God Bless America. G D America! That’s in the Bible. For killing innocent people. G D America for treating us citizens as less than human. G D America as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is Supreme."
Originally Posted By X-san Actually, the American treatment of blacks throughout our history IS pretty damnable, I'd say.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <>>There's an (attempted) Democratic noise machine too, (Air America and etc.) but it's not nearly so large or well organized.<< <Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... (ie: that's funny.)> You do realize that right-wing talk radio is far more pervasive and listened to than left-wing talk radio, no? In fact, right-wingers like Beau like to brag about that.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>You do realize that right-wing talk radio is far more pervasive and listened to than left-wing talk radio, no? In fact, right-wingers like Beau like to brag about that.<< Exactly. My point was that when it's convenient, they'll own right-wing talk radio, telling us how great their ratings are and how O'Reilly is trouncing Olbermann as proof that conservatives are more common in America. But then when they pull a dumb stunt, no one's heard of them, they aren't party spokesmen, no one takes them seriously, etc. I still haven't heard any response to the fact that Cheney's been on Rush's show many times, that Tony Snow was pulled directly from Fox News, etc. The idea that right-wing media isn't really part of the Republican party is clearly laughable. If Cheney is going on Rush, it certainly makes Rush an important part of the neocons who are indeed in charge of the current Republican party.
Originally Posted By DAR The Democrats Noise Machine may not be talk radio, but with websites out there like Moveon.org and Daily Kos out there they have the opportunity to reach just as many people as a Hannity or Limbaugh. And how anybody can defend either of those two sites is beyond me. And nobody should defend the bozos on the right either.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 To be fair to Dug, ecdc, this James clown is not nearly as prominent as Rush, although according to at least one person here, he was being "groomed" to be a right-wing star. Perhaps this will slow him down, although getting the facts wrong has rarely done much damage to these guys among their acolytes.
Originally Posted By DAR Actually these days the most reasonable mouthpieces for both sides are two former SNL'er's, Dennis Miller and Al Franken.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>although getting the facts wrong has rarely done much damage to these guys among their acolytes<< He'll probably run for president in 2012.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>To be fair to Dug, ecdc, this James clown is not nearly as prominent as Rush, although according to at least one person here, he was being "groomed" to be a right-wing star. Perhaps this will slow him down, although getting the facts wrong has rarely done much damage to these guys among their acolytes.<< And I agree wholeheartedly. Which is why I said James was part of the Republican noise machine. Rather than respond to that, Dug invented this notion that I'd said James was a spokesperson for the party. These are different things, but it tries to somehow paint a picture of people like James as having nothing to do with the party. The reality is, people who listen to him are overwhelmingly Republican, and are most likely influenced by what he has to say, which influences how they vote. The difference between Rush and James is that Rush is popular enough that he doesn't have to go on Chris Matthews for attention. He stays in his own clubhouse to hurl insults and doesn't have anyone to call him on his nonsense. This fact doesn't make him somehow more informed or more reasonable than James. They're pretty much all the same, from the looks of it.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Which is why I said James was part of the Republican noise machine. Rather than respond to that, Dug invented this notion that I'd said James was a spokesperson for the party. > Good point.
