Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I think these boards provide an outlet for some people who envision themselves as part of some sort of Disney watch-dog group. Maybe their dreams didn't come true in the way that those Disney movies played out on the TV screen as a kid. Maybe they tried to work at Disney for some time and just didn't fit in the mold that they thought should have been perfect for them. In any event, there's no harm in folks harboring a fantasy about their perceived importance in an online discussion group. It probably contributes to their overall mental health in ways that expensive sessions with a psychiatrist and prescription medications can't achieve.>> So, Goof, are you in danger of losing your job with the Mouse? Or have you already? Or are you just trying to save someone's a$$ by attacking the messenger? Oh, and have a magical day!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Bravo Witches!>> Indeed! I always appreciate the kind words and the support ... especially when I'm wasting time with someone not worthy of mine!
Originally Posted By kennect Spirit, I learned a very valuable lesson recently and in a way you played a part in it...Don't ask...Regardless, you know that the messenger will always be open for attack from someone...Just a sad fact of life...Not everyone is going to agree with what you say...Let it slide and keep on going...You know around here all are entitled to their own opinions....That seems to be one thing that makes this site so good....
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I have no way of truly knowing whether The Spirit is all puffed up with self-importance or if he actually does have impact with the WDW suits that he claims. All I know is that he is very knowledgeable (with the exception of his misguided opinion of DVC ;-) ) and I have no reason to doubt what he says. We have no way of knowing what Spirit does for a living or what business connections he might have. So until I have some reason to think otherwise, I'll accept that the Spirit is telling it as it is.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy I'd accept the same if postings weren't so overly biased in one direction. If I didn't know any better, I'd suspect that some posters here were employed by the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union. The postings here are very consistent with the same tactics and tone used by that organization on other websites. If you express any sort of "doubt" about the motivation behind those posts, you are immediately labeled as being on the payroll for Disney (or whatever company's management they are lambasting at the moment).
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Well, I can only speak for myself and my sisters. We don't work for Disney. We have part time jobs at a place called Brooms to Go.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I have no way of truly knowing whether The Spirit is all puffed up with self-importance or if he actually does have impact with the WDW suits that he claims.>> The Spirit actually ... sadly ... has very little ego. And since a few folks high up the Disney food chain have told me they know of 'your insignifcant online activities' (and I'm assuming they're not talking about the same fetish porn they're likely into!), I will continue to keep on with my (pause for a very long self-assured laugh) inSIGNIFICANT online activities here. I've also been told by Disney friends high up the food chain that I'm regularly read, and even quoted, at the company. I like that. <<All I know is that he is very knowledgeable (with the exception of his misguided opinion of DVC ;-) ) and I have no reason to doubt what he says.>> Trippy, I LIKE DVC. I just had a wonderful stay at the Boardwalk Villas. Last year, I really enjoyed Saratoga Springs. You well know my issue with DVC is how it has been added at WDW resorts and not developed outside Orlando, which I think is a big business mistake. But I'm pretty damn sure I'll hate the 4-story DVC Tower that Disney isn't building this very minute at the Contemporary! <<We have no way of knowing what Spirit does for a living or what business connections he might have.>> And you won't either. But I think you'd be shocked by the latter, and mildly surprised by the former ;-) <<So until I have some reason to think otherwise, I'll accept that the Spirit is telling it as it is.>> I have had an excellent track record over the past year if I do say so myself.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<4-story DVC Tower >> well, I wouldn't hate that. but I do think I'll hate the 14-story Tower that's being built.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<If you express any sort of "doubt" about the motivation behind those posts, you are immediately labeled as being on the payroll for Disney (or whatever company's management they are lambasting at the moment).>> There ARE folks who post here (and on other Disney sites) that do earn paychecks from the company. That's a fact. Some post for their own agendas individually. Some post just because they love the company and want to share that. But there are others who post to further whatever agenda is coming from Burbank, Glendale, Anaheim and Orlando. Sometimes the agenda isn't even what the company wants, but rather what factions inside said company want to see happen or not happen. And that is why I'll always be suspicious of any posters who believe Disney can do no wrong or who show up suddenly when something major happens in the Disney world (or at WDW) and posts in a way inconsistent with most fans.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo I don't know Spirit, it could be said that a number of us post inconsistantly in line with fans.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Well I pretty much hated teh Spirit when I first read his...stuff. However as time has gone by, and I've had a chance to read a lot more of the...same, I have come to realize that The Spirit has our (the guests) best interests in mind. I see things I don't like, and things I do. But I have to give The Spirit an apporving nod in that he has the ...stones to tell it like it is.
Originally Posted By cassiedoodle how, this is getting pretty hostile for a disney forum, lol. if we're taking sides, i'm on spirit's side!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 No sides, please. I only have good sides Just understand my only agenda here is very out in the open: to see TWDC run its parks in the best way possible for all guests, to adhere to the Disney Standards that they CONDITIONED me to expect through 25 years of excellence in visits. (and appears to have forgotten in a Decade of Decline) And if that costs people some jobs, well, that's life. WalMart is always hiring ;-)
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 No sides, please. I only have good sides Just understand my only agenda here is very out in the open: to see TWDC run its parks in the best way possible for all guests, to adhere to the Disney Standards that they CONDITIONED me to expect through 25 years of excellence in visits. (and appears to have forgotten in a Decade of Decline) And if that costs people some jobs, well, that's life. WalMart is always hiring ;-)
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << WalMart is always hiring ;-) >> So is WDW. In fact, I'd venture a guess that there are more job openings at WDW on a given day than at all the WalMarts in Central Florida -- maybe in the entire state of Florida.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 but less chances for undocumenteds to work 60 hour weeks and receive no OT...a WalMart staple.....
Originally Posted By BeautysBeast Your all clever and knowledged disney explorers...Time to switch the Walmart analogy to something more relevant.Such a generalization is made without hard facts.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Nah. I'll stick with the WalMart analogy ... it speaks to a dumbing down, lowest common denoninator product ... and Disney has gone done that road way too far over the past decade.
