Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Re: 128 - Because she'll have more executive and national experience than she has now, without losing any of her positives." She can't lose something she never had.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka Sadly, it's pretty obvious that the far right is pretty jazzed about Palin and Joe the Plumber and see them as their star players right now. That's fine, it just makes forming a 3rd party more of a reality. Or, maybe we could get rid of some of our far-left crazies and they'll join as Dems. No more crazies!
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Yeah, luckily though not enough people in America see someone like Palin as viable (thankfully, we still have SOME sense in America). Palin will more likely be the next Dan Qualye nothing more. Again, maybe she will run, but I dont see her getting past a primary or two. The funny thing, the IRONIC thing is people had tried desperately for two YEARS to paint Obama as this guy with a closet full of secrets and issues. Palin was VP nominee for exactly two months and 5 days and more stuff fell out of that closet than her entire Neiman Markus collection in that short time. Two YEARS of that will just be priceless fodder for all around. All the incoherent and looney gaffes she displayed in 2 months of very FEW interviews, can you imagine months of interviews, debates and REPUBLICAN attacks? Man, that will be priceless. Sure, she would be 'better' at interviews, more knowledgable, but you still can't hide idiocy. Rocks for brains would not last under the national media spotlight for very long. Look, on a state level with a veeeery tiny and conservative population for the most part, she's fine. But on a national level where things get 100 times more complicated, no way! This woman incompetence is waaaay too high to be taken seriously. But I have a feeling in about a year from now, Palin will fade from the 2012 spotlight anyway. I'm not saying she would go away, she will ALWAYS have a political career...its the beauty of America, as long as enough people agree with your politics you will stay in power. But the talk of running for PRESIDENT is utter lunacy IMO and its been litterally 3 days since election, so everyone's nerves are still raw. Again, I remind people there was talk of Howard Dean running again after 2004 and look how that turned out lol.
Originally Posted By Mr X My biggest fear is that she'll find a way to put herself in that soon-to-be-vacant Senate seat... Seeing as how the Alaskans will vote for ANYONE (yup, even a convicted Felon!), and she's now the most famous American ever to emerge from that place, I think she could easily win a special election. Scary, eh? Then, she'll bide her time and keep building her kooky "base", until 8 or 12 years from now she can make a legitimate (I use the term loosely) run for the White House. If she tries for 2012, she's even dumber than I think she is. As others have said already, the Republicans themselves have ample ammunition to tear her to shreds before she even says "hiyya" to any Democrat four years from now. Almost makes you hope they DON'T expel the criminal, eh?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <<First of all, most of the others were conservatives as well.>> <I disagree.> Most, if not all, of the people I listed are self-described conservatives. So if you disagree, you are saying you know better what a "true" conservative is than the conservatives in question themselves. Well, you still got the arrogance thing going for you, I'll say that. <<Second, have you seen any indication (let alone evidence) that he's not conservative on social or fiscal issues.>> <Have you seen anything that Andrew Sullivan has written in the last two years that indicate he's a conservative?> We were talking about Adelman there, not Sullivan. But nice attempt at misdirection. Which tells me that you, in fact, couldn't find such an indication on Adelman. <<I would guess, without really knowing - you just wanted to contradict me when you realized your claim that "no real conservative would endorse Obama" was ridiculous>> <My claim was not ridiculous.> Considering I named half a dozen self-described conservatives (and could have named more) who DID support Obama... yes, your claim that no "real" conservative would endorse Obama was ridiculous. <<On most of those issues, you essentially positioned yourself slightly to the left of the most rabid right.>> <On all of these issues, I am to the left of the far right, which makes me not on the far right.> You're to the left of the rabid right, but still firmly within the far right. I know, I know. You probably disagree. But I base that on several solid years of reading your opinions, the sources you typically link to, etc.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Oh - latest indication that you're far right: that you consider all these self-described conservatives as not "real" conservatives.
