Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom The sad part is that we have come a long way thanks to the civil rights efforts made during the 50s, 60s and 70s. But for the most part homosexuals in America are still shunned, hated, demonized and ocassionally murdered. Can anyone imagine a society that has done this to their own children.
Originally Posted By friendofdd >>>How do you know it's well stated friendofdd? You said you haven't seen the film?<<< Sorry for any misunderstanding. As I haven't seen it, I was not meaning the statement was right or wrong, just easy to comprehand.
Originally Posted By TiggerRulz >>Someone might see the movie and feel compelled to be true to their own nature and not feel the need to marry someone they don't love to prove some kind of point. The less people hurt, the better. One of the greatest things about today's society is that more people feel free to be gay. They don't have to pretend they are straight, there is no need to destroy lives by denying their true nature.<< But marriage equality means that I have the same right to get married to a woman as any other man. Why shouldn't I be able to take advantage of my conservative given right?
Originally Posted By woody "The characters in Brokeback Mtn were broken, unhappy people." Another reason to avoid the movie. "They don't have to pretend they are straight, there is no need to destroy lives by denying their true nature." Yeah, there is a new movie where people act out their nature. That movie is "Hostel", a torture of another form.
Originally Posted By patrickegan Typical wild conjecture by the strident, where even soft disagreement is met with an open dialogue of overwhelming hostility.
Originally Posted By EdisYoda What I would like to know is if this same theatre is running Hostel. Frankly, I would rather see Brokeback Mountain then Hostel (and I like horror films), but I don't plan on seeing either of them... just not my cup of tea.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder >"The characters in Brokeback Mtn were broken, unhappy people." Another reason to avoid the movie.< Then stay away from Casablanca. Sheesh.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut you cant tell they are broken and unhappy in Casablanca......because its in black and white. Everyone seems happy in Black and White.
Originally Posted By guerillagorilla EdisYoda, Commons is indeed playing "Hostel" as regularly scheduled. And I would remind some posters that this theatre has absolutely "banned" the showing of "Brokeback Mountain", as defined on dictionary.com as an act "To prohibit, especially by official decree." Merriam-Webster backs this up by their definition of "ban" as follows: "to prohibit especially by legal means <ban discrimination>; also : to prohibit the use, performance, or distribution of <ban a book> <ban a pesticide>. In this case, Jordan Commons has "banned" - through legal means - the use of the film, but not necessarily the distribution of it. It's also interesting to note that Mr. Miller's other theatre megaplex, due 10 miles north of Jordan Commons, also banned the showing of Brokeback. Stopping short of accusing Miller of unjust bias (which wouldn't be the first time he's been accused of such), I think his religious alignment played a key role in this decision to ban the movie from his theatres. If this proves to be the case, it's really a shame he didn't ban "Hostel" as well. Then again, this is the same guy who lobbied the Utah Legislature to pass a law "banning" the sale of cars from dealerships on Sundays (probably to eliminate some stiff competition from other dealers), so it's ultimately not too surprising.
Originally Posted By patrickegan I doubt that bigot screened L.I.E. or Our lady of Assassins, so that homophobe and his theater of hate need to be shut down! It’s time to forget all about gay and get grumpy(er)!
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF Somehow I'm reminded of Penny Pingleton's mother from "Hairspray"... Hysterical much?
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> I think his religious alignment played a key role in this decision to ban the movie from his theatres. << I think so too. And therein lies the rub - he's picking and choosing which movies are suitable based upon his personal beliefs, which are obviously skewed. Hostel's "okay", but BBM isn't - because, you know, jesus would want it that way. What I really don't understand is why this movie is sooo controversial in the first place. Hollywood has made lots of 'mainstream' movies with a gay theme before now - "Birdcage" comes to mind. If this story were about two hairdressers in new york, none of this flap would be happening.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF ^^^ And wasn't this sort of plot already covered, albeit with women, in "The Children's Hour" years ago?
Originally Posted By goodgirl <<What I really don't understand is why this movie is sooo controversial in the first place. Hollywood has made lots of 'mainstream' movies with a gay theme before now - "Birdcage" comes to mind. >> So true. I would think it would be a take it or leave it kind of thing. Personally, I'm not drawn to action adventure films but I do like a good drama. That's why I was drawn to Brokeback Mountain.
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF >>What I really don't understand is why this movie is sooo controversial in the first place. Hollywood has made lots of 'mainstream' movies with a gay theme before now - "Birdcage" comes to mind. If this story were about two hairdressers in new york, none of this flap would be happening.<< Exactly. I've said it before: movies like "The Birdcage," "In and Out" and TV shows like "Will & Grace" (none of which I like) are gay movies for a straight audience, as it were. I have absolutely no issue laughing at myself and at some things in gay culture, but heaven forbid we have a serious mainstream movie dealing with real issues gay people face.
Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<I'm not sure I want to see it. I absolutely don't want to see another Torch Song Trilogy.>> Brokeback Mountain is no Harvey Fierstein self-indulgent drama-fest, Tom. As I've written before, I've found most independently-produced gay-themed movies to be preachy, melodramatic, implausible, and/or smarmy. I don't feel Brokeback Mountain falls into this group. IMHO, it is a very well-told story about a relationship between two men.
Originally Posted By scottie Coming from an ex-homophobe I understand why it's so controversial. What's great is that people are going to see it and liking it. Which probably means it was well done and people of all backgrounds are connecting to it at some human level. That is very disheartening to the homophobe. The humanization of the homosexual being "shoved" in our faces.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer That's a good point, Scottie. This isn't a stereotypical portrayal of gay characters, from what I gather. That probably scares the homophobes more than anything else.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan What's wrong with homophones? There are lots of them in the English language. Fine words like to, too and two. What are we supposed to do, take them out of the lanuguage completely? That's ridicu-- what? Oh, homophobes. Never mind.
