Originally Posted By patrickegan <<And if you just think homosexuality is disgusting>> So that would make somebody wrong? I think sex with children is disgusting does that make me wrong? ^^You're not serious with that statement are you, DDMAN26? That comparison is WAY beyond apples and oranges.>> I don’t know why, the intergenerational boy-lovers use the same rationale! We had that discussion <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/default.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-70603-P-35&Refresh=0111141409or" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/de fault.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-70603-P-35&Refresh=0111141409or</a> Some do some don’t<a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/default.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-70603-P-35&Refresh=0111141409" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/de fault.asp?WCI=MsgBoard&WCE=T-70603-P-35&Refresh=0111141409</a> those slippery slope arguments <<Do you find those same acts disgusting when heterosexuals do them? Because really, there is no sexual thing that homosexuals do that heterosexuals do not also do.>> It difficult for two men to have vaginal intercourse and a baby for that matter. You see DDMAN26 It’s called a double standard. They want from you what they are not willing to give. They want acceptance for their lifestyle and sexual orientation’s while those with moral, natural or philosophical differences are pelted with insults and ignorant blanket statements. The bemusing part of this is that in the midst of all of the broad brush painting they’ll be telling you how you’re evil, close-minded and that your choices/feeling are full of hate. If you want to see real hate just read the post’s pertaining to religious folks!
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I saw Passion of the Christ. That was about as much violence as I can handle. I know some people really were moved by the film, and at one level I can see why. But at another, the violence was so lurid -- almost in a pornographic way -- that I found it repellent. I understand the point, but then there are weird factoids, like Mel Gibson's hands driving the nails into Christ's hands -- I mean, what's that about? Seems just... bizarre to me... and an odd, "playful" thing to do in what is meant to be a deeply religious film. Maybe I just don't get it. And yet, I imagine that if a theater owner decided not to show Passion of the Christ, their motives would be called into question, too.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut Why is that if someone wants to see Hostel they are twisted but if they dont want to see Brokeback Mountain they are a bigot? I dont want to see either movie. Neither of them seems very entertaining at all. I hate love stories and modern cowboy movies and I hate movies without any story at all. So does that make a me a bigot but not twisted?
Originally Posted By peeaanuut <<I saw Passion of the Christ. That was about as much violence as I can handle. I know some people really were moved by the film, and at one level I can see why. But at another, the violence was so lurid -- almost in a pornographic way -- that I found it repellent.?>> I found that movie to be one of the most boring movies I have ever seen in my life. The violence only made it slightly bearable.
Originally Posted By wonderingalice <<I don’t know why, the intergenerational boy-lovers use the same rationale!>> Talk about your "ignorant blanket statements" ...That one takes the cake. Poor you, patrick... All that "pelting" you're taking. At least no one's attempted to murder you lately for wanting to just live your life.
Originally Posted By wonderingalice peeaanuut, I don't think the people who choose to see "Hostel" are 'twisted' ... people are naturally curious. But I think the makers of the movie are definitely a few screws short of a toolbox.
Originally Posted By scottie I'll be the first one to admit that I was interested in Hostel as soon as I saw Tarantino's name flash at the top of the trailer. Then after reading many reviews I decided to wait until next month when I can Netflix it. Those horror flicks seem to go straight to DVD. Everyone has their guilty pleasures, right? I watched Dancing with the Stars and enjoyed that, too. But I'll only admit that here on the internet.
Originally Posted By wonderingalice ^^You ol' softy! ;-) I like Jackass... (And I NEVER thought I'd EVER admit that to anyone aside from Mr. Alice! *LOL*)
Originally Posted By wonderingalice I should specify... It's the TV show... I never saw the movie. *L* Think I like it because it reminds me of an 'extreme' Three Stooges. I love slapstick humor (along with pretty much all kinds of humor). I also watch "Next"... One of the most mindless bits of drivel ever produced... I'm always amazed at the shallowness of most (not all, amazingly ;-) of the contestants.
Originally Posted By scottie If I was forced to choose between the bigot or the twisted bigot, I'd choose the bigot assuming the duration is the same.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<DDMAN26, you do know that Quentin produced Hostel, right? >> Yes I as stated in post 151 I'm a fan of Tarantino's movies and I will acknowledge that they are violent. But he also backs his films up with great dialogue and strong stories. The director of Hostel directed Cabin Fever not in any way approaching anything Tarantino has done.
Originally Posted By patrickegan And let me guess, you were? I encounter/see many gay people in my daily dealings. Many of them display rainbow flags/license plate frames, stickers, bracelet’s, equal stickers etc. The way you portray being homosexual as living in fear of death would run counter to all of the advertising on cars, homes and businesses.
Originally Posted By wonderingalice Exactly, scottie... patrick, you can NOT deny that hate crimes happen. Be grateful you're not 'different.'
Originally Posted By patrickegan <<Thank goodness they live in more tolerant state, huh patrick?>> <<patrick, you can NOT deny that hate crimes happen. Be grateful you're not 'different.'>> Not to the extent that you both insinuate or people wouldn’t advertise. So in this case reality defies the propaganda! Tolerant? I don’t think so, if for instance you hold religious conviction you’re labeled. If you display a flag or picture of the President you’re divisive. If you’re not lockstep with opening the borders and willing to pay for everyone that wants to sneak in you’re a racist! So after all these years of having to endure nonsense about how labels hurt feelings, no blanket statements and the need for tolerance what have we learned? It turns out the open mind folks are as vociferous and maybe more intolerant then those that supposedly conspire against them.
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "It turns out the open mind folks are as vociferous and maybe more intolerant then those that supposedly conspire against them." Utter b.s., but you know that. Your posts have become nothing more than frontier jibberish.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer There's a difference. A big one. Gay people aren't trying to prohibit others from enjoying any rights or privileges. They aren't trying to establish institutional systems that grant them certain benefits that wouldn't be available to all citizens. The bigotry and hate is coming from the people that are trying to make sure that a group of people does not have certain rights or privileges based on nothing more than their gender. It's not coming from the people who are trying to live up to the promise of equal protection of the law for all citizens.
Originally Posted By patrickegan <<To be honest cars with Bush Cheney stickers are more likely to be vandalized they those with the rainbow flag. Now, is that a hate crime or an example of tolerance you like?>> <<"It turns out the open mind folks are as vociferous and maybe more intolerant then those that supposedly conspire against them." Utter b.s., but you know that. Your posts have become nothing more than frontier jibberish.>> You are going to deny that the homosexual movement isn’t by far the most over represented minority? Gay people aren't trying to prohibit others from enjoying any rights or privileges. They aren't trying to establish institutional systems that grant them certain benefits that wouldn't be available to all citizens.>> They already are the double edge of domestic partners. Now you’re telling me I can get benefits? And what of those that have religious convictions, is it fair to disregard their feelings and beliefs? <<“The bigotry and hate is coming from the people that are trying to make sure that a group of people does not have certain rights or privileges based on nothing more than their gender. It's not coming from the people who are trying to live up to the promise of equal protection of the law for all citizens.â€>> The real danger lies in people believing their own propaganda and in this case the struggle for women’s rights crossing over to gay men is absurd! So Tom, now that you have the right to get pregnant do you also want the right to get an abortion or is it strictly the right to vote you’re after?
Originally Posted By StillThePassHolder "You are going to deny that the homosexual movement isn’t by far the most over represented minority?" Yup. And it's passages like this that make most of around here convinced you're unhinged: "So Tom, now that you have the right to get pregnant do you also want the right to get an abortion or is it strictly the right to vote you’re after?"
