Originally Posted By Inspector 57 <<I am who I am, why are you so upset and mad at me?>> You stated that you typicially post under another name but that due to a technical difficulty you are technically unable to do that. That's either true or it's not. If it's true, you should have no problem stating what name we know you under. You're having a major credibility issue here.
Originally Posted By thereit is >>not since yesterday.<< Oh to bad, I had a few Pale Ales before with dinner!
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Anyway, I'm still wondering what folks think about editorial cartoons in general. Are certain cartoons unpublishable (I'm not talking about flat out racist or pornographic.) I mean, should editorial cartoonists be concerned with offending people? Secondarily, has there ever been an editorial cartoon that challenged a belief you've held? Thirdly, what happens when a cartoon highlights a bit of hypocrasy that your own candidate/party/cause has, that you know exists? Does it make you angry, or can you chuckle about it, think "touche´" or does it really make you angry?
Originally Posted By thereit is >>You're having a major credibility issue here<< Just take what I say on it's own merit and go from there, you need to be more open minded. Stop looking to put people in a place that makes you feel more comfortable, just look at people for whom they are and be more loving.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut <<I mean, should editorial cartoonists be concerned with offending people?>> I think the cartoonist should feel responsible for whatever reaction is created by their cartoon. Good or bad. <<Secondarily, has there ever been an editorial cartoon that challenged a belief you've held? >> cant say that I have. However Calvin always getting busted for what Hobbes did seemed to bust my hide.
Originally Posted By peeaanuut <<Just take what I say on it's own merit and go from there, you need to be more open minded.>> Whats being said is only slightly more important than who is saying it.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan However Calvin always getting busted for what Hobbes did seemed to bust my hide.<< LOL
Originally Posted By thereit is >>Are certain cartoons unpublishable (I'm not talking about flat out racist or pornographic.) I mean, should editorial cartoonists be concerned with offending people?<< Well you should not offend just to offend. But when you have Muhammad in heaven saying stop blowing yourself up we are out of virgins, thats funny and says a lot of truth.
Originally Posted By mele <<Well you should not offend just to offend>> Coming from you that means a lot.
Originally Posted By mele I rarely enjoy editorial cartoons. I usually don't read them but they would have to be very, very offensive for me to be bothered and even then, I doubt I would protest. Well, if I thought it was too offensive I would protest by cancelling my subscription, etc. Anyone who would feel the need to commit violence over any sort of drawing is a little unhinged.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe Unhinged mele? Let's TRY to be fair and say just a different culture>religion??????? Unhinged to the point of wanting to kill all infidels hence the Beau view, my wife, George Bush, and millions that we have to DEFEND ourselves from those individuals who want to kill us if we don't believe as they do. My wife is getting flipped out over this whole thing and that's why I WOULD NOT get upset about the Jesus depictin. I'm trying to be a ripppe of tranquility in a sea of hysteria, IF I CAN! 2toon and NUUT---cartoons are suppose to challenge and that is the point to change hearts and minds, and 2oon THEY are an excellent TOOL for that purpose IF the people aren't "UNHINGED" as mele so euphemistically put it.
Originally Posted By bboisvert A free press was a keystone in our own democracy. Freedom to critisize our leadears is second just as important as viting, IMO. It is for that reason, among many others, that the concept of exporting western style democracy to Islamic nations is doomed. Their culture seems to be hard wired against it. That's not to say that one cannot be shaped around the other, but expecting to have carbon copies of our ideas nad philosphies in these nations is foolish. Especially when we try to install it for them. $0.02
Originally Posted By cape cod joe BB-----You got a DOLLAR for that one. I agree with everything you say. So what is the answer? Being frugal, as I've said over and over, let's not give away over 100 Bill a year to people who hate us. Is isolationism the answer then? Maybe something in between I think? Let's stop this giving away the store to placate people who hate us routine? .02
Originally Posted By thereit is2 I just loved the one with Muhammad in heaven saying to the suicide bombers, " STOP STOP, we have run out of virgins" Now that is some funny stuff with a lot of truth about the religion of love.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe You're hot today there it is! Again I agree 99% because nothing is 100%. Have you seen the news as I type?????? These Muslims are just destroying everything because of a cartoon! My wife just said if it wasn't that it would be something else. Even crazed Pat Robertson isn't burning down everything because Jesus was offended These Muslims just think they are better than everyone else and "kill all the infidels" So much hate.
Originally Posted By thereit is2 >>These Muslims just think they are better than everyone else and "kill all the infidels" So much hate.<< If you read about the life of Muhammad you will see that the reason he wrote in the Koran that nothing bad can be said about him or you should be killed is because his life was to say the least, not one of goodness. He was a very violent man with a lot of blood on his hands, and we see his people following him like he would have liked them to. Forget that in his late 40's he married a 6 year old girl and consummated the marriage when she was 9. In the Koran it say she was his favorite wife( im sure she was).
