Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Well, I'll bet that if a couple of folks would have bought the farm on TT or Soarin' they wouldn't have brought people in either. Without the deaths, I think MS had an excellent chance of being a powerful draw. It is an awesome ride and offers what very few others do.>> It is an awesome ride, but the deaths happened 2 and 3 years after the attraction opened. They knew it wasn't the draw they had hoped well before that.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>No longer would they spend huge amounts of money on any unproven product.<<< You really think that is what did them in? That was Eisner, not Iger.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer That's because it's just ONE ride. It needs to be a whole pavilion.
Originally Posted By SFH Regarding Harry Potter - my guess is that Rowling probably wasn't comfortable with the amount of legal control Disney wanted. Whether or not they would actually defer to Rowling when it came down to making decisions, Disney probably wanted an iron-clad legal contract giving them full control over how things would be done. This is just my guess, knowing Disney well and knowing Rowling very little. I do know the filmmakers deferred to her a lot.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys >The purposeful conditioning of newbie guests (in this case I'm using Y2K as an arbitrary date) that current WDW quality is what Disney has always provided and is the best it has ever been or could ever be.< Eventually, us old timers will all be gone and this "conditioning" process will have the desired effect that Disney is hoping to accomplish for present and future Disney guests. I wonder if the happy campers of today will see a further decline in the services and standards of the future Disney product. One can only hope that it get no worse than the current one.
Originally Posted By disney pete of course it rankles us in it's great decline but it still has enough to drag us back there.
Originally Posted By dshyates And soon the will have a new D Ticket a 4 Magictastical Princess meet and greets! Wheee!!!!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >The purposeful conditioning of newbie guests (in this case I'm using Y2K as an arbitrary date) that current WDW quality is what Disney has always provided and is the best it has ever been or could ever be.< <<Eventually, us old timers will all be gone and this "conditioning" process will have the desired effect that Disney is hoping to accomplish for present and future Disney guests. I wonder if the happy campers of today will see a further decline in the services and standards of the future Disney product. One can only hope that it get no worse than the current one.>> Even if it gets no worse (and I firmly believe this three year 'recession' might continue for another five years at this rate, so it will get worse), it's gone waaaay too far. You just walk in almost anywhere at WDW today and can see where quality has been accountaneered out of the equation ... be it flimsy, cheap paper guidemaps ... or the same vinylmation items in every shop (saw a great example of this at DL on Miceage yesterday) ... or see $9 burger meals at quick serve locales ...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<of course it rankles us in it's great decline but it still has enough to drag us back there.>> Some of us, yes. Many, no. My Disney spending has moved ... to Anaheim, Paris, Hong Kong, Cruise Line ... but WDW? The place I could get in my car now and make MK before EMH ends for the night? Not. So. Much.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 That being said, I'll be down in 2 weeks. I still love it! ---- hey DDD - will be there then also
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>of course it rankles us in it's great decline but it still has enough to drag us back there.<<< No it doesn't - if you tried it Pete, you would still see it exists in California, Tokyo and to a lesser extent, Paris.
Originally Posted By magnet Apparently, EPCOT has taken to playing the "Time of Your Life" marketing song during the exit period after Illuminations. How long has that been going on? I'd much rather listen to music that will leave me with a memory of a magical night than listen to a song telling me I just had a magical night.
Originally Posted By dshyates <a href="http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/2440/waltandcastle.jpg" target="_blank">http://img269.imageshack.us/im...stle.jpg</a>