Originally Posted By magnet >>>It's temperamental, no?<<< Maybe, but that many things off is pretty inexcusable. It's actually making me kind of angry as I am recalling the missing parts. I've seen the ride when almost, if not everything, is working. Splash is probably in my list of top five rides at WDW. I suspect that I did hit on a really bad time, but it DID leave me with a bad memory. However, the problems in the laughing place cave offend on many occasions in my experiences.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> Maybe, but that many things off is pretty inexcusable. It's actually making me kind of angry as I am recalling the missing parts. I've seen the ride when almost, if not everything, is working. Splash is probably in my list of top five rides at WDW. I suspect that I did hit on a really bad time, but it DID leave me with a bad memory. However, the problems in the laughing place cave offend on many occasions in my experiences.<<< Again, agreed. There's a lot that is just the luck of the draw, but not THAT much. Bare bones is the bare minimum, and I expect more out of Disney, too.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Just reading some of these threads it appears some of you visit WDW frequently or even work there. You get to see some of these problems on a daily basis. If you only had a chance to visit every few years would you be a little more forgiving?<<<< No way. I went 7 years between trips (2000 and 2007). Although we had fun, the highlight was visiting with friends. We had goone to Disneyland Paris and Disneyland a few times in between, and in comparison, WDW made me angry with how far they have slipped. We are now only contemplating going to WDW again as a couple of days of a larger trip to visit friends, WWoHP and Legoland. The quality of the place is poor compared to other Disney resorts and in fact, even compared to non-Disney parks.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>I've never seen hoppin' Brer Rabbit inoperable, nor have I ever seen the angler fish in Nemo broken.<<< Funny, I have never seen either operating, or the Yeti, and the last trip we can add uncle Wilbur, Zeeke, the MAyor in the Well, and oh so many more AA's, that is unforgivable IMHO.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo And the food in the MK has got to be the worst in all the Disney parks around the globe with the exception of WDSP.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>And the food in the MK has got to be the worst in all the Disney parks around the globe with the exception of WDSP.<<<< What makes it so bad for you? I can agree on the QS, but eating at the Plaza was a nice meal...
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo The dining is uninspired, the menues are almost identical, and the service is not great. Even the so called greats of Liberty Tree, Crystal Palace and the former King Stefan's do not offer the same quality as Epcot or DHS. And the counter services aren't a patch on any of them. In Dl, there are some fantastic QS and table service experiences. And Blue Bayou and Club 33 are really unique (well except they have them in Tokyo too). DLP has 4 outstanding table service experiences that give Epcot a run for their money. If the MK is supposed to be the flag ship, then dining is really something they need to work on. Though the ave WDW guest seems to have quite a limited pallette too.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I suppose. But I've bever been overly picky about food, in regards to how and where it's served. If the service is good, and the food is good, and the place is clean, I am pretty happy. Guess I am helping the decline in that respect...
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Funny, I have yet to find one place to get food in the MK that I would call good. Adequate, yes. Or the service is good at Liberty Tree. Or the decor nice in some. But none where they food could quality as good, not in decades anyway. As for clean, well the QS were filthy when we went in 2007 - Columia Harbour House and Cosmic Rays, sticky horrid tables and rubbish everywhere.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Ehh. All depends on taste, I guess. I liked my Philly in The Plaza. Eager to try Tony's Town Square this Dec. Agreed that the QS were pretty bad back then... We were kinda grossed out in 06. That's gotten better, too. We ate in Pecos this past trip, and they had a guy spraying down and wiping tables before we sat down.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt My last dining experiences @ Cosmic Rays & Columbia Harbor were both quite favorable. We even went 2x to CR's since the ribs were awesome! Sorry to hear that Dave.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Eager to try Tony's Town Square this Dec.>> Tony's is "Meh". Not bad, but not good. It used to be one of my favorites back in the day...
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Oy, everything is meh, to everyone. I'm looking forward to making my own conclusions...LOL.
Originally Posted By magnet I like the crystal palace a lot. Very good buffet in my opinion. Has deteriorated a little but still very good.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper ^^^I agree. I love the food there. If it was character free I'd like it more, but that's another story.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Oy, everything is meh, to everyone. >> Not true. Le Cellier, Biergarten, and 50s Prime Time are all awesome, IMO.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo there is great dining at WDW - California Grill, V&A, Jiko, Boma, O'Hana, most of World Showcase. Just not as great as it use to be, and the MK comes nowhere close.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: My sisters and I remember the day that you could just 'show up' at the Crystal Palace and be seated without making reservations. Now that it's a character meet and greet with Winnie the Pooh--not that we mind THAT part--you have to make priority seating reservations and that meant we couldn't eat there as often. ORWEN: Plus--unlike Disneyland where you can find a place to eat breakfast WITHOUT making reservations--the Magic Kingdom doesn't have any breakfast locations for people without reservations. ORDDU: We agree with Davewasbaloo. The food offerings at the Magic Kingdom really aren't that good. There are a few exceptions here and there. But overall we prefer what Disneyland has to offer for breakfast, lunches and dinners.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys <there is great dining at WDW - California Grill, V&A, Jiko, Boma, O'Hana, most of World Showcase. Just not as great as it use to be, and the MK comes nowhere close.< I would add the Yachtsman Steak House, Olivia's and the real best kept secret at Disney - the Turf Club at Saratoga Springs. The common denominator is that the dining at the Parks is not even close to the dining at the resorts. The only place at the parks that enjoy is The Plaza.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys ^ actually the common denominator is that the places I listed are all at the resorts not the parks
