Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "It was someone else that came up with Spaceship Earth, Imagination, Verizon, World of Motion, Test Track, Nemo, Soarin, Everest, Safari, Typhoon Lagoon, Blizzard Beach. As you can see I can go on and on and none of these things had any influence directly from Walt Disney." Yes, certainly not "VERIZON". You = *facepalm* : )
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost I was hoping no one would notice that little brain cramp there...of course, I meant Horizons. My phone must have rung while I was posting. My kingdom for an edit feature. Doobie, time to upgrade technology.
Originally Posted By avimagine Gooyernmost it is actually going to be implimented. As you can see here Doobie promised he will be adding an edit feature. Honest and truly. <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-82430-P-1.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...-P-1.asp</a>
Originally Posted By brotherdave Let's hope that your mistype of Verizon isn't an omen of who might want to buy Disney! Remember, Comcast tried a few years ago, but ended up buying Universal instead. I could just see them trying to counteract Universal for cable channels....
Originally Posted By avimagine Could be worst Bell could buy them then institute extremely low caps with no maximun overage charges for 5mb DSL (25gb, then 1.50 per gb over to an unlimited amount) as we in Ontario will be getting in March...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<The EPCOT Center/Disney Village monorail plans were back in the early 80's pre-Eisner time. The pillon bases were poured inside EPCOT for the expansion. I was lent for a brief time from monorails to Disney Transportation Co to help in presentations to cities across the country when Disney thought it could sell monorails and wedway's as alternative transportations. Somewhere in my files I have the glossy booklet that Disney gave to cities that were interested in Disney transporation.>> Very interesting. I had not heard that. Just the earlier original plans, and then the later plans for MGM and EPCOT Resorts. From what I understand, both Eisner and Wells signed off on it, but didn't see a need to build it until the mid-90s ... hence putting it on maps and property plans ... and we all know what went down there. <<The monorai to the Disney Village heated up in 1983 and was a hot topic of discussion at meetings for several months then it just went away. The $1million a mile quote that you have heard aloth thru the years was the number being kicked around in the early 80's. >> Yeah, I can see that being a much larger # than it would be today. <<Sometime in th 1990's when Disney was adding its own hotels across property the relationship between Disney and the hotel plaza resorts began to deteriorate. The hotels were angry that Disney was adding resorts and became vocal about what they percieved as Disney trying to undermine their business. My mind might be cloudy on this point but I think that Disney was providing buses to the parks from the hotels and at some point Disney told them they would no longer do that.>> Yep. Not sure the exact year, but sometime in the 1992-94 timeframe, Disney stopped providing Hotel Plaza 'official' hotels with bus transport to the parks as it began massive expansion of its own. <<I do remember sitting in a meeting when Wonders of Life was being designed and the question of the monorail pillon bases was raised. Someone at that meeting said that the Disney Village loop would never happen and the bases would be removed.>> Were they? <<There was serious talk about a monorail from EPCOT to the EPCOT resorts and the Studios. Obviously the decision was to utilize trams from the EPCOT resorts and boats to the resorts and Studios. The trams (which were Swan/Dolphin pink and green) were eventually retired when it became obvious that the paths could not safely handle trams and guests walking. Shades of the double decker buses around World Showcase Lagoon.>> I remember those trams. I think they lasted until construction on the BW started. Most people don't even know that there's a giant tram station right outside the International Gateway.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I think it might be a clause in the ownership contract...so that Vacation Club buyers were aware it COULD happen some day. ---- I'll check my sisters contract -- but that is not uncommon. The house I owned before this one was built in a subdivision where they had to tell us an interstate extension could run thru approx 300 feet to the west of the subdivision,, and lo and behold it eventually did. I believe the plat surveys must show potential thoroughfares as that land would belong to someone other than homeowners - rights of way etc.>> I think that's exactly what's the situation with SS ...they had to let folks know that it was possible beamways could be built thru the resort for legal reasons, not that it would ever happen.
Originally Posted By Fanboi Doesn't bother me! Everything Disney does is just super great! Yay yay yay!
Originally Posted By Mr X ***<<Hadn't heard about that one, but I did see a concept poster (which was old and faded by the time I glanced at it, not to mention cast off into a corner in a storage space somewhere deep in the bowels of WDW), which clearly indicated a line running from Epcot to MGM.>> I absolutely don't recall plans for an EPCOT to DD rail route. I do recall seeing a model back in the 70s (yeah, they really existed!) for a monorail extension. It showed it going just near the Disney Shopping Village and onto what was then the LBV resort (with a stop near what was the Club Lake Villa Conference Center). From what I was told, there's something in the Saratoga Springs DVC contracts that says something to the effect that a monorail 'could' be built thru the resort (but we all know it won't happen). What I do know was DEFINITELY planned was a route connecting EPCOT to the Disney-MGM Studios and the EPCOT Resorts. This was planned in the late 80s when they were still thinking big. I even have a picture somewhere of the early 90s masterplan for the resort that showed the above (it was in fact displayed at Communicore for years) ...*** Thanks for the backup memories there Spirit my Friend...for a while there I thought I was just imagining things (or perhaps, wishful thinking lol). Nice to know I wasn't the ONLY one who saw that oh so awesome (and so much better!) master plan they had cooking before someone threw cold water onto the fire!
Originally Posted By Mr X ***and that also means COMPLIMENTING the company and the execs on what they do RIGHT, which is still a heck of a lot even today!). ---- standing and applauding you X for this post.. this is the part some just don't get or don't appreciate at all. And yes I agree no need to abandon what Walt stood for and I don't think all have*** Thanks for that, VBDad. I do think that offering encouragement and compliments is an important part of the process; when a company does something very well, it HELPS to make sure you, the customer, let them know that you appreciate it and would like to see more of the same. That is at least as important if not moreso than registering a complain (which is also important, where justified)...in other words, when you compliment good service, or exceptional people, or great programs, you are telling them THAT'S WHAT WE WANT! And, in a catching more flies with honey sort of way the suits do react to that, and pass it along much more willingly and happily than they will a complaint about how crappy the place has become. But anyway yes, overall I think it's a good policy. At the very least if you're feeling free to complain about the bad, don't leave out the good in your efforts (but NOT at the same time lol!).
Originally Posted By Mr X ***and that also means COMPLIMENTING the company and the execs on what they do RIGHT, which is still a heck of a lot even today!). ---- standing and applauding you X for this post.. this is the part some just don't get or don't appreciate at all. And yes I agree no need to abandon what Walt stood for and I don't think all have*** Thanks for that, VBDad. I do think that offering encouragement and compliments is an important part of the process; when a company does something very well, it HELPS to make sure you, the customer, let them know that you appreciate it and would like to see more of the same. That is at least as important if not moreso than registering a complain (which is also important, where justified)...in other words, when you compliment good service, or exceptional people, or great programs, you are telling them THAT'S WHAT WE WANT! And, in a catching more flies with honey sort of way the suits do react to that, and pass it along much more willingly and happily than they will a complaint about how crappy the place has become. But anyway yes, overall I think it's a good policy. At the very least if you're feeling free to complain about the bad, don't leave out the good in your efforts (but NOT at the same time lol!).
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 I think I'll go to City Hall tomorrow and compliment Disney for the amazing new Harry Potter attraction ... what's that you say, Potter isn't at Disney? Well, since a letter to Iger complaining about Christmas crowds at Potter (this woman apparently was clueless and thought Disney owned every park in town ... can you spell R-U-B-E?) as the worst part of her MAGICal WDW vacation has been making it down the CM foodchain (I had two CMs tell me about it today), I'm thinking that maybe if folks flood Disney with letters and comments complimenting Potter that The Mouse might get the idea it's time to stop resting on its laurels and amazing creative legacy and start actually doing somethings worth getting lathered up about again. Or maybe I'll just blog about not getting into Palo on my free cruise.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>> I'm thinking that maybe if folks flood Disney with letters and comments complimenting Potter that The Mouse might get the idea it's time to stop resting on its laurels and amazing creative legacy and start actually doing somethings worth getting lathered up about again.<<< Or maybe this demonstrates that the weatherman earnt his bonus for not spending the money on WWOHP but reaping the rewards anyway.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Disney is obviously reaping some rewards because of Harry Potter but I am also hearing that guests are choosing to come to Orlando, stay at Universal or I-Drive and not go to Disney at all. Universal continues to be packed.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Well I know the way I feel at the moment, next time we go to Orlando we will either stay at a Marriott Villa or Universal Resort - and the priorities are likely to be Sea World, USO, KSC, and the new Legoland. We would likely go to Epcot for a day and maybe DAK, but having never been to Busch Gardens, we might opt for that instead. Toons don't impress me much, and that seems to be all Disney are pimping unless it is trading on nostalgia.
