Originally Posted By Dabob2 <but I also humanity for the policy officer killed while doing his job and for his family that they feel that someone has to pay of this no matter what.> See, some of us are with the first part of that statement, but can't get with the second part. I feel for the cop's family for losing him for no good reason, but also want to slap some sense into them for not seeming to realize that they're going to force Davis's family to suffer the same thing - also it seems for no good reason.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I feel for the cop's family for losing him for no good reason, but also want to slap some sense into them for not seeming to realize that they're going to force Davis's family to suffer the same thing - also it seems for no good reason.>> First off, the cop was off-duty. Anyone feeling the need to be a good samaritan in this situation (stopping the beating of a homeless man) would have also ended up shot to death. But because the good samaritan was a cop, somehow that makes the murder more heinous. Why, I have no idea. Second, I've watched these surviving family members being interviewed on cable news (perhaps CNN). Even though I do not personally know them, their demeanor and attitude about this situation comes off as the stereotypical "white southern trailer trash" kind of mindset. This is why I postulated that race is playing a big role in this situation. If Troy Davis were white, I honestly don't know if the MacPhail family would have such an obvious blood lust for taking this man's life. Part of me believes that it's easier for this family to accept the execution of Troy Davis in light of no hard physical evidence and recanted eyewitness testimony, because he's black. This is Georgia, and many parts of Georgia are still stuck in Jim Crow, if not most of it. Ask anyone like a very good friend of mine, originally from the Bay Area, who's been living outside of Atlanta for almost a decade. She's African-American and a corporate professional with an MBA, and she sees the discrimination one way or another, every single day, sometimes even blatantly. So you can't tell me that race did not play a huge factor in this freak show of a kangaroo court. These MacPhail family members should be deeply ashamed of what they've been advocating. And after the execution/murder, I hope the guilt eventually bubbles up and burns their consciences for the rest of their lives, to the point they can no longer live their lives in peace and contentment.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ....no need to reiterate; Based on deductions I know what your said DDMAN: An executed innocent doesn't bother you as much as a murderer going unpunished. And that is disgusting. Your priorties are out of whack.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ......still waiting for two(or more) on here to tell me why a cop is worth more as a human being than say a toothless 'jizz mopper' at an arcade or a retired United Airlines pilot.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>An executed innocent doesn't bother you as much<< That isn't what he said at all.
Originally Posted By dagobert That case was just shown in the news over here. It was said that the pardon wasn't granted and he is definitely sentenced to death.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<..no need to reiterate; Based on deductions I know what your said DDMAN: An executed innocent doesn't bother you as much as a murderer going unpunished. And that is disgusting. Your priorties are out of whack.>> Again that's not what I said. Try putting down the bong every now and then you might be able to comprehend what's being said.
Originally Posted By barboy2 By the way, where the hell is Chief Obama????? He has the clout to do the right thing but he hides like the coward he is and the coward he replaced. How you folk on here can support him is beyond me. Forget taxes, budgets or foreign affairs for a moment for there is something far more important.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 If I was in a situation like this. Would I take the families reaction of they've caught someone doesn't matter who he is, he's guilty in my mind, excute him, end of story. Or I could look at things clearly and see that this isn't the person and another family is going to suffer like mine has. Honestly I cannot say what it would it be.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<Forget taxes, budgets or foreign affairs for a moment for there is something far more important.>> The latter affects far fewer people than the former.
Originally Posted By barboy2 For you Kar2oon compliments of DDMAN: "The real sad part is the person who did this has gotten away"
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Because you have chose to cherry pick what I said here is the full statement with a few: I said it's obvious an innocent person is being put to death. The real sad part is the person who did this has gotten away with it. Now because we don't have the ability to highlight I will emphasize certain points of my statement. I said it's OBVIOUS AN INNOCENT PERSON is being PUT TO DEATH. The real sad part is the person who did this has gotten away with it.
Originally Posted By hopemax Okay, I feel a touch bad about this, but is anyone else feeling a bit amused that DDMAN is upset that his words are being twisted? I chalk it up to karma after all the torture threads.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>For you Kar2oon<< Read it the first time, thanks. I don't believe he meant that the WORST part of this is that the likely real killer got away with it, just that it's an ADDITIONAL sad aspect of this whole tragedy. You zeroed in on that phrase and from that, assumed that he cares more about revenge than the wrong man being executed, when that is not at all what he said. To support that, you have to ignore everything DDMAN has written before or after that phrase, which certainly has clarified it.
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Originally Posted By Dabob2 <By the way, where the hell is Chief Obama????? He has the clout to do the right thing> He has zero clout in a state matter. The only thing he could do is ask the Governor personally for a stay. And since the Governor is an anti-Obama Republican, if Obama asked for a stay, the Governor could never grant it and look like he was "giving in" to Obama. It would actually make it less likely to happen, IMO. So the most Obama can do is ask behind the scenes, if he thought the governor wouldn't resent even that. I can't remember a case of a sitting President inserting himself into a questionable execution (and this is hardly the only one in my lifetime). Jimmy Carter, bless his kickass-ex-president self, has done so; it's just not realistic to think Obama can or will.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///He has zero clout in a state matter./// That is not relevant--- I'm not talking legal ability here and you knew it too but decided to bring up something unnecessary. He can raise awareness, even more awareness than that which is happing currently since he is after all supposedly leader of the USA. I went out of my way to use the word 'clout' and not 'politcal/legal' authority. Come on dabob, I know you like the guy but get real. Chief can influence and you damn well know it.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I'm not a mind-reader and I did not know what you meant. You shouldn't assume things like that.
