Originally Posted By Autopia Deb To attempt an answer to 2ooney's question a hundred some odd posts ago. I'm not sure I ever fully supported the war in Iraq, I was not against it and I did (do) support the troups. I am glad Saddam, his sons and much of his regime are wiped out and just as glad Bin Laden is gone. BUT our continued military presence so long after "Mission Accomplished" with it's waste of money and lives is tragic. I honestly don't know how I feel about Curveball's lies. I always thought the WMD excuse was BS anyway and those who wanted to go to war should have said straight up "Saddam and Bin Laden are the bad guys, we want them dead and we're going to war to make that happen".
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I honestly don't know how I feel about Curveball's lies. I always thought the WMD excuse was BS anyway and those who wanted to go to war should have said straight up "Saddam and Bin Laden are the bad guys, we want them dead and we're going to war to make that happen".<< Thanks for answering the question, Deb. I know for me, the journey from being for the war based on what we had been told to being against it as the truth became known was a depressing one. I think it badly damaged our credibility and that we have to never again repeat such an error. It's relevant now because some are eager to attack Iran.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 When it comes to the lead up to war and tactics to fighting a war I'm not sure if we ever did things the clean and neat way. We can say we once did, or that don't do that anymore but I'm not too confident in that, but like I said, I'd rather not know.
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Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-85893-P-1.asp?c=1" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms....asp?c=1</a> The thread above is from April, 2007. Five years ago. Five freaking years ago. To read it, you've really got to want to punish yourself, but it's instructive in case anyone is wondering why my vitriol for Dougie Boy was instantaneous when he first re-appeared in this thread, and others then followed suit. We thought we were finally rid of his crap, polluting and disrupting this place, but his need for attention from people he's never met was too great and so he popped up in this thread, knowing full well he'd aggravate people. Because again, if we were to believe him, he's extremely concerned people he's never met are "lying" about him. Apparently, this anonymous "lying" is going to somehow reflect upon his real self, away from here, assuming he even has an "away from here", which with each passing post of his seems less likely.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh All that thread proves is that you were as much a jerk five years ago as you are now. Again, if you really want me to stop posting in this thread, just stop lying about me. That you feel the need to attack me over and over shows what a small pathetic man you are. Calling me names won't make you smarter or cooler. It just makes you look sad.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh It's funny. I just reread the whole thread SPP linked too. Besides proving that several posters were as big of jerks back then as they are now, it also shows they were wrong about Iraq, and I was right. Thanks for linking to it, SPP.
Originally Posted By Labuda "The idiot's like every sitcom wife who pouts and says "If you don't know what you did wrong I'm certainly not going to tell you!!"" I doubt you're a Tosh.0 watcher, SPP, but your post above made me think of a "Viewer Video of the Week" that recently aired. In it, there's a (presumably) husband and wife and he's about to go to work. She tells him he can't go until he guesses what's different about her. So he takes NUMEROUS guesses, and things are getting more heated as he tries to leave and she refuses to let him past, telling him me MUST guess what's different. After a good half minute to a minute of this escalating, he finally guesses that she's pregnant, and she confirms, then the skit ends as he makes a comment to the effect of "Lord help me." This may not sound very funny since I'm not a comedian and my telling is rather dry, but trust me - it was HIlarious! Ok, that's all. Oh, and just for good measure: Please stop lying about me. Damn, I shouldn't have smiled, should I? Rats... hard for me to pretend to be a total jerkwad.
Originally Posted By Labuda "And besides it proves that real American's like us can get along with commie loving socialists." I do NOT love any commies, thankyouverymuch! Oh, and that Jesus dude was a socialist, too.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <it also shows they were wrong about Iraq, and I was right. > Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!! Good one! Goo-- Oh wait. You were serious.
Originally Posted By ecdc You can't talk to people who live in a different reality. And even if you did, going out of your way to explain and offer your perspective, you'd just get, "No, it isn't," back.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Try being a conservative explaining things to a liberal. Instead of polite disagreement, you get lies and insults.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney I read part of the thread. What happened to alexbook? I found the discussion about leaving Iraq vs. staying and winning the war the most interesting to read in retrospect. Here we are, 5 years later, mostly out of Iraq and I would say there were no winners there. In fact, it's rather disturbing to read that thread 5 years later considering the massive number of deaths due to that war started by our country....based on lies.
Originally Posted By fkurucz "Try being a conservative" I guess that depends on your definition of "conservative". As many know here, I'm pretty "conservative". But in no way do I see myself cut from the same cloth you are Doug. To me yourrepresent the fringe that's taken over the GOP and the conservative movement in general, which has moved so far to the right that I no recognize it.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney I've been worried as well that the fringe has taken over the GOP. However, the current front runner in the R party, being a liberal-moderate-conservative, may finally be the end of the Tea Party crazies movement; at least the end of the crazies being elected into major political positions.
Originally Posted By ecdc As Dabob2 touched on, the constant references to liberals or "libs" is the most telling part of this exchange. It represents a refusal to see others as people who might just disagree and who may not mean harm. Instead, we get a dichotomy of right vs. wrong based on over-simplified labels.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>As Dabob2 touched on, the constant references to liberals or "libs" is the most telling part of this exchange.<< That's what happens when someone filters all their input through talk radio and right wing media. This is how they talk. Unlike on talk radio, however, they don't get to control the debate, so they cry about how mean "libs" are.
