Originally Posted By DyGDisney I am liberal and proud to be. Call me a liberal all you want, I find no offense in the word. I am in favor of helping the poor and needy, I'm against wars (especially wars started under the pretense of lies by an egomaniac), I am in favor of VERY strict gun laws and believe the 2nd amendment is terribly misunderstood. I am a bleeding heart and wouldn't want to be any other way.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Fkurucz, I don't think you know what the word conservative means." Yeah, that's because the looney tunes like yourself have redefined it. Please stop lying.
Originally Posted By barboy over your heads-----yep, way over your heads Some of you are playing with the word lies so I borrowed Larry Flynts protected free speech lie about Gerry Falwell back in the early 80's and applied it to DD. And since it was meant as levity around here it was indeed called for.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 No that just wasn't funny. Doug, now that was a lie, please take note. All right off to Cancun, talk to everyone in a week.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh You know, the way most here constantly attack republicans and conservatives and pretend to be superior would be funny, if it wasn't so dangerous. The policies of the people you voted for have been disastrous. High unemployment, high energy costs, and trillion dollar deficits are going to ruin this country and you pretend conservatives are to blame. It is ridiculous. You echo the liberal talking points by calling the GOP the party of no, but it is the Democrats who refuse to pass a budget or offer up a plan to fix entitlements. This administration's Treasury Secretary goes before Congress and admits entitlements are unsustainable and they haven't got a plan to fix it but "we don't like yours", and you post about how you thinks some racist in Florida is getting away with murder. Almost everyday, there is news about another company that got government money, paid its well-connected management bug bucks then went bankrupt, and you want to pretend the fact that some guy lied about a few details led us to war. And you continue to espouse the "give me stuff and tax the other guy" policy that is leading Europe and us to the brink of bankruptcy. You are what is wrong with this country.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>The policies of the people you voted for have been disastrous. High unemployment, high energy costs, and trillion dollar deficits are going to ruin this country and you pretend conservatives are to blame. It is ridiculous.<<< Not me, I didn't vote for Bush.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>you want to pretend the fact that some guy lied about a few details led us to war<< A war we could not afford. A war that the Bush administration tried to keep off the balance sheet. A war they wanted long before 9/11 because it would be a "slam dunk" and we'd be greeted with flowers and chocolates. Promoted and pushed for by chicken hawks who'd never been on a battlefield. Making light of "some guy lied" is easy when it isn't your ass on the battlefield, isn't it? When it isn't you in for your 3rd, 4th, 5th go-around in Iraq or Afghanistan. We here were asked to give up NOTHING -- just keep shopping folks! But reactionaries like you, Douglas, (that's the proper term, not conservative) wave all that away and instead want to zero in on making sure that the average person can't get a leg up. The so-called "budget" tea baggers put through is a joke, and they know it. Since 9/11, really since the Clinton era, reactionaries have ramped up the rhetoric, stake out extreme positions and refuse to ever be reasonable. It's all "you're with us or you're against us" -- reactionaries get to decide who is "real" Americans, who are "libs", which religions are okay and whatever other decisive, backward-thinking nonsense they can come up with. If you want to know what's wrong with this country, Douglas, turn down you radio, set aside your reactionary magazine and take a hard look at yourself.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>We here were asked to give up NOTHING -- just keep shopping folks!<< Rachel Maddow nails this in her new book, Drift. The reviews rightly point out that this isn't just your average "Hey, let's pump out a book to get attention for my cable news show" book. It has actual facts, actual research, and actual spot-on analysis. As Maddow points out, the country didn't go to war the last decade. No, we sent other people off and they had a war. We kept right on doing what we do, and Bush gave us tax cuts during the war. Who does that? What freaking country actually cuts taxes during a war? But of course, I wasn't at war. Douglas sure wasn't. We didn't sacrifice a damn thing. No, we outsourced the war to the military and contractors, as if they're somehow separate from us.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>We didn't sacrifice a damn thing. No, we outsourced the war to the military and contractors, as if they're somehow separate from us.<< Exactly. >>What freaking country actually cuts taxes during a war?<< Right, but at the time, question that and people wondered "Why do you hate America?"
Originally Posted By DyGDisney ^^^AND, with the war kept out of the budget by Bush, but added by Obama, guess who gets the blame for THAT increase in the national deficit. BTW, STANDING OVATION for post 230.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan And they are back to lying again.<< No, "a few details" is a lie of massive proportions. His "confirmation" of "a few details" was presented as proof that Saddam had an active WMD program and was a clear and present danger to the US. Those "few details" you glibly dismiss lead to the loss of over 4,000 American lives, not to mention the tens of thousands of Iraqis. But that doesn't matter, right? We can fudge the details, don't need to hold ourselves to a higher standard because a Republican administration held the reigns at that time. So, better to lie it away and pretend it doesn't matter, like Douglas pointlessly tries to. But no one is fooled by it, except the foolish.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I mean, really, here we are a decade later, the guy admits to lying, and still chicken hawks pretend it played no role in us going into a protracted, costly war. To live that deep in denial takes a willful ignorance of the most extreme kind.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "And they are back to lying again." And WTF does it matter to you so much? Isn't there another group of people in your miserable life that matter more to you besides anonymous posters? Don't the opinions of those others carry more wieght for you than ours in this little section of life? Is your life really that empty you feel the need to futily try and change people here?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh No, and if you stop lying about me, I will stop commenting. Unlike you, I don't need to be a bully on the internet to give myself some worth.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer DouglasDubh was the one who convinced Paul Pressler that people wanted restaurants and shopping instead of rides at DCA.
