Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Yes, you were. Lie all you want. Just leave me out of it.> Look, the record is clear for all to see. And I think we're all just collectively shaking our heads to think you're still playing these semantic games (like #15) and conclude they can accuse the other guy of "lying" because (and I quote): "A few "No it wasn't" is a little different than just "No it wasn't"," It's comical and sad at the same time.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I would be interested in reading how people who continued to support the Iraq war felt upon learning about "Curveball" and his lies. They seldom address the issue.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Please stop lying about me.> I'm not. And we can go back and forth on this forever.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 What, exactly was the "lie?" That you never said that US intelligence wasn't being fixed around the policy, as the British pointed out? That was what I said in #4, and if you claim you never said that, THAT would be a lie, because indeed you did. So is my big "lie" that I said you "just" said "no it wasn't," and you interpreted the "just" to mean "solely" rather than "merely?" THAT's my big "lie?" What is it, exactly? Put up or shut up time.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I would be interested in reading how people who continued to support the Iraq war felt upon learning about "Curveball" and his lies. They seldom address the issue. Why is that?
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh I am not going to answer questions whose premises are based on lies. I don't care if you want to constantly lie. Just leave me out of it.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I ask because it is a fact that this guy lied, and his lie served as evidence that Saddam had a WMD program. "Curveball" himself chuckles over this lie, flaunts it now as a means to an end. I'd like to hope we've learned a very hard lesson out of this about the dangers of pre-emptive wars, relying on shaky evidence (or worse, fabricated facts) but since so few war hawks will address it, it's hard to know if they learned anything at all. Rumsfield, Cheney and all the rest, they'll go to their graves never admitting they screwed up on a fantastic scale.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I'll give Ron Paul this much credit -- he's one of the few in the GOP stressing that we can't afford massive, needless wars of this sort. The rest of them won't touch it with a 10 foot pole, preferring to appear "patriotic".
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Now now Dabob if I look at post 19 you did sort of bait Doug just a little a bit.* *I imagined myself saying that last statement a little like Robert DeNiro's character Jimmy Conway in Goodfellas after Billy Batts told Joe Pesci's Tommy to go get his shinebox.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <I am not going to answer questions whose premises are based on lies. I don't care if you want to constantly lie. Just leave me out of it.> Is that addressed to me, whose question is asking you to clarify yourself, or to Kar2oonman, whose question was perfectly logical? Since neither question was a premised based on a lie, it's hard to tell.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan LOL! >>I would be interested in reading how people who continued to support the Iraq war felt upon learning about "Curveball" and his lies.<< The only lie that question is based on is "Curveball"'s lie. I am genuinely curious to read a response from someone who continued to support the war in Iraq how they felt upon learning that Curveball was an admitted liar. I'm curious if this revelation makes a person rethink the whole concept of pre-emptive wars, or not. It is a fact that he lied, he has said so for some time now, and again in this interview. He thinks such lies are okay because they are a means to an end. Do war supporters agree? I don't expect you to answer, of course. Instead, you'll distract as usual before disappearing to lurk. The question is out there for anyone who would like to address it, however.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney It's like reading posts from Donnie, only with better spelling and punctuation!
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh The lie is that you are interested in what people whose political opinions you disagree with think. You have made it clear in over a decade of posting that you don't.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney K2M, I would be curious to know the answer as well, but holding our breath will only bring about our demise. Instead, you can post in the "Futile Attempt of the Day" thread!
