Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I'm sure by then there will be some sort of anti-crochety medication, or at least Dr. Kevorkian's act will have long been legalized.>> Why would I possibly be interested in anything Kevorkian is doing? My wife and I are having a better time than we ever had before. Lots of money with few responsibilities means GOOD TIMES for all. At least it could be if you breeders would get over yourselves.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>What was her reaction when she realized what it was?<< She made a face Lucille Ball would have been proud of! LOL
Originally Posted By TomSawyer I don't think Road Trip was saying not to take the kids out at all. If you go to Red Robin, you expect them to be there. If you go to a 2:00 pm showing of Chicken Little, they are going to be there. I think he's referring to them at the 10:00 pm showing of the South Park movie or sitting at the next table at the restaurant where you had to take out a second mortgage to afford the salad course.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I think he's referring to them at the 10:00 pm showing of the South Park movie or sitting at the next table at the restaurant where you had to take out a second mortgage to afford the salad course.>> Yes, of course. There are places where you can expect to find lots of kids, and places where you can reasonably expect there won't be many there. I've often heard the comment that WDW should offer an adults only hotel. Although I certainly understand the desire, I've never supported it. WDW is a place where you can expect to find lots of kids, and if you can't deal with it you probably shouldn't be there. That is NOT the case at an 8:00 PM movie or dinner at a fine dining restaurant. All I ask for is a little common sense and a little common courtesy.
Originally Posted By GrumpysWife Wow, a lot of posts to read here! I came late to this discussion! I breastfed all three of my babies. In fact, I was at every feeding, no supplemental bottles. (er, young and obsessive) Course, they didn't have the cool breast pumps they do now, or I would have probably been different, and I also had the luxury of staying at home and not working. I was really blessed. I only did this for 6 months each, however. It was really tying, but something I wanted to do. That was me, I see no reason to beat yourself up if you choose not to nurse, can't nurse, or just don't become insanely obsessed with feeding every meal like I was. Anyway, it was the early '70s, when being free was in vogue. Most nursing moms who were discreet, but some became quite militant about their right to nurse anywhere it was needed. They would be the one that kind of on purpose plopped down next to strangers and popped it out. And NOT discreetly, or covered up. (The same ones that would share their at-home birth pictures with you.) That was uncomfortable for me, I'm sure it would be uncomfortable for anyone when they take a militant attitude. Who's to say whether the woman in post #1 was harried, militant, relaxed and free, or just clueless. There is USUALLY some place a little more discreet than sitting on a small bench next to a strange man; not to say you're strange, Jafar, just a stranger! To me, she sounds a little like the militant type. You can be obsessed about nursing (as I apparently was) and still be discreet! one other thought - my DIL encountered the nursing nazi counselors also, trying to starve my grandbaby when DIL's milk was sluggish. She is now bottle feeding and has a happy healthy baby. I think this is where the militant nursers went when their milk dried up...
Originally Posted By RoadTrip My wife breastfed our son, but chose not to breastfeed our daughter (our second child). It had been a VERY difficult pregnancy, and she had to spend the last two months at home in bed rest. She felt that after all that she really didn't want to have to be tied down by the demands of breastfeeding too. That was fine with me. We fed our daughter Infamil formula from the beginning. My wife took the daytime feedings, and I took the nighttime ones. I am more of a night owl (as you can see from the timestamp on this post) and I was fine with getting up for the 2:00 AM feeding. I LOVED feeding our daughter. Some of the best memories in my life are memories of the late night sessions giving Rachel her bottle. It was a time we had together that we never would have had otherwise. I think she survived being a bottle baby. She has always been a dream child; never giving us any trouble whatsoever. She is currently a Senior in college with a 4.0 GPA through three years. It seems the lack of breastfeeding didn't cause her irreparable harm.
Originally Posted By GrumpysWife Roadtrip - You sound just like my son and DIL - he takes the shift until 2 am and then she takes over. And he loves it as well. I think it's made a totally different, better generation of fathers out there.. Glad she survived it! LOL
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy < my son, rather than slicing the dinner rolls in half, instead slathered butter on top of the roll, like he was icing a cupcake or something, and then chowed down. I was mortified.> Hey! I'm 27 and *I* do that...actually I love food so much I slather the top with butter *and* put butter in the middle. <>>What was her reaction when she realized what it was?<< She made a face Lucille Ball would have been proud of! LOL> LOL!
Originally Posted By TomSawyer I take the first shift at night as well, usually until 2:00 am. On weekends we each take an entire night and early morning so the other can get a full night's sleep and sleep in a little. There are few things better than a baby falling asleep in your arms after a late feeding.
Originally Posted By Ursula ^ Amen to that. Although I am not a mom, I was a nanny for five years. Oh, and I helped a bit when my lovely niece was little.
Originally Posted By LPFan22 ~~~I was a nanny for five years.~~~ Hey, so was I! It was the most rewarding job I ever had. =)
Originally Posted By Kimrue <<Even so, there are going to be some people who want to be around a woman who is breast feeding. And while they may find the concept of breast feeding a beautiful wonderful thing, they don't want to be around when it's happening.>> So...Move and stop weenie whining.... <<How so? I don't like having my words twisted or having them put in my mouth thank you very much. A breast that is full of milk is referred to as "Engorged" -that is the actual adjective used by people in medicine and people who deal with expectant mothers -is that warped? Give me a break. Do they not take out their breast to feed? I fail to see how saying a woman taking out her engorged breast to feed her child is a "Warped" description? And "graphic"? That's exactly what birthing a child is if you make no effort to cover up so thanks for pointing out the point I was trying to make.>> Blah blah blah...your graphic description is NOT accurate when it comes to the process of nursing a child. It is purposefully, unnessesarily over exaggerated...I don't know anyone who PULLS OUT AN ENGORGED BREAST (thank you, I do know what the term "engorged" means...)and we all know that a child sucks on the mothers nipple to feed. I just think your pulling out the "shock value" card to prove your point. The bottom line is we ALL AGREE that if you see someone's actual breast..I'm not talking about a rumpled up shirt and the babies mouth moving...I'm talking about a BREAST..that is wrong wrong wrong...but it seems that we can't agree on just the act of breastfeeding itself being done in public. Some say if she's covered up, that's ok..but later on say they would still be uncomfortable, so MOVE!! What more do you want this person to do? Covering up is good enough, but well, no not really, she should still go "hide" but wait..what if you see some boob? Oh well that's disgusting...but what if she's covered up? Well, that's ok, wait no, cause I'm still uncomfortable with...ummerrr...well, baby sucking on nipple...errr...gross...uhhh..so talk to her...make her uncomfortable..uh er..got milk huhhuhhu boobies!!!! This is what I'm talking about. I'll tell you what right now, I've had conversations with total strangers men and women while I was nursing..you're not making US uncomfortable, so talk away!!!! While we're beating this dead horse...maybe we should talk about a COVERED UP nursing mother sitting next to you, still going to complain???
Originally Posted By TiggerPooh1973 Wow. OK, my two cents. She should have covered up. I do not understand people who think women shouldn't breastfeed in public at all, but I do understand being uncomfortable around a women who isn't discreet about it. It is very easy to cover up with a little blanket or hand towel or something. Or like LuLu said, there are shirts designed for discreet breastfeeding. How old is too old? I think the comment about when they can ask for it they are too old is a good one, lol. My son was breastfed (and nothing else) until he was 6 months old. He was completely weaned at 1 year. We were just in a restaurant Friday and a women started nursing.....and not at all discreetly. She had on a spaghetti strapped tank top and just pulled one side down. Even if you catch yourself without a blanket for whatever reason, you can at least turn away or something, like towards a wall, at least until the baby latches on.
Originally Posted By MrToadWildRider >> Blah blah blah...your graphic description is NOT accurate when it comes to the process of nursing a child. It is purposefully, unnessesarily over exaggerated...I don't know anyone who PULLS OUT AN ENGORGED BREAST (thank you, I do know what the term "engorged" means...)and we all know that a child sucks on the mothers nipple to feed. I just think your pulling out the "shock value" card to prove your point. The bottom line is we ALL AGREE that if you see someone's actual breast..I'm not talking about a rumpled up shirt and the babies mouth moving...I'm talking about a BREAST..that is wrong wrong wrong...but it seems that we can't agree on just the act of breastfeeding itself being done in public. Some say if she's covered up, that's ok..but later on say they would still be uncomfortable, so MOVE!! What more do you want this person to do? Covering up is good enough, but well, no not really, she should still go "hide" but wait..what if you see some boob? Oh well that's disgusting...but what if she's covered up? Well, that's ok, wait no, cause I'm still uncomfortable with...ummerrr...well, baby sucking on nipple...errr...gross...uhhh..so talk to her...make her uncomfortable..uh er..got milk huhhuhhu boobies!!!! This is what I'm talking about. I'll tell you what right now, I've had conversations with total strangers men and women while I was nursing..you're not making US uncomfortable, so talk away!!!! While we're beating this dead horse...maybe we should talk about a COVERED UP nursing mother sitting next to you, still going to complain??? << First - again I don't see how it was a graphic description. It wasn't intended to "shock" anyone - it's what happens. It was a description of the act and if you think that's shocking then maybe you're even more conservative than me. Second - I can't speak for everyone but reading -most- of the posts I don't think anyone said breast feeding in public is bad period. I was saying that they should just cover up and if they don't have anything to cover up try to find someplace more private than a bench in the middle of a mall where someone is already seated. I don't think it's asking too much to carry a cloth/blanket/etc. with you in a bag along with the child's diapers and other necessities. If the mother neglects to bring that with them then I don't think that entitles them to just be able to do it wherever (not restricting them) but rather they use a level of modest discretion and try to find a suitable location to nurse the child. I don't think there was anyone saying a woman should NOT feed in public but the consensus was that a mother should try to be a little discrete that's all.
Originally Posted By Labuda "(Lisa's comments are based on the fact that at the Golden Doobies dinner, my son, rather than slicing the dinner rolls in half, instead slathered butter on top of the roll, like he was icing a cupcake or something, and then chowed down. I was mortified." My husband does the same thing. UGH!
Originally Posted By jdub n/e how, Miss Manners says both methods are incorrect; the way to deal w/bread'n'butter is to tear off a small piece at a time, butter that piece, then smash it into your mouth. What I wrote is all true--but for the word "smash."
Originally Posted By Ursula Ahem. One is to take the butter knife and put a pat of butter on one's bread plate. One then tears off bits of bread to be dabbed onto the butter and then gracefully smashed in the mouth.
