Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> so that millions more guests can experience an attraction that IMHO is one of the finest created by WDI in the last two decades<< <<Out of personal preference I would disagree. Certainly not better than ToT, Everest, KS.>> Or Indy ... or Splash Mountain for that matter. Soarin is wonderful, but still a step below those.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I won't agree or disagree. I'm just darned glad I can enjoy the attractions without analyzing them to death.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<Out of personal preference I would disagree. Certainly not better than ToT, Everest, KS.>> Or Indy ... or Splash Mountain for that matter. Soarin is wonderful, but still a step below those.>> From a theming and execution standpoint, I agree that Soarin' was not Imagineered to the same degree. There are some flaws in the show aspect of the ride. Having said that, I prefer it to ToT and Splash. It's an E-ticket for me, even with its warts. (FYI and FWIW, I have only experienced the DCA Soarin'.)
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Since I first rode Soarin' at DCA (I’ve since tried it at WDW) I've considered it the most fun Disney ride. Not the best, not the most exciting, not the most thrilling. But definitely the most fun!!
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>No it isn't. A good attraction in one park is a good attraction in another park. Orlando is 2,500 miles from Anaheim. For they most part they attract different audiences. Except for hard core Disney freaks like us, very few people visit both parks.<< But it's irrelevant. DL did see less people then it would have when WDW opened. Soarin' is slightly less of a draw now for DCA since it is available on the East Coast. That was my contention. While minor, it is true. I don't have a problem with clones. I have a problem when old attractions are cloned to support an entire park. This is not one of those cases.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >> Insult is closing down the perfectly viable and entertaining Wonders of Life<< Whoa! I guess you must think Disney sucks all the time Dan! Crazy, because I think Disney was somewhat right in shutting it down. I would say they were wrong in not having a new concept waiting to start construction.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>I won't agree or disagree. I'm just darned glad I can enjoy the attractions without analyzing them to death.<< Then why are you here, RT? Honestly. Because you post this, something that has no purpose but to make you better than us. So why are you here? Because you are glad you can enjoy the attractions and read other analyzing them to death?
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>(FYI and FWIW, I have only experienced the DCA Soarin'.)<< I would say your point stands then. You're not missing anything with the translation East.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>Since I first rode Soarin' at DCA (I’ve since tried it at WDW) I've considered it the most fun Disney ride. Not the best, not the most exciting, not the most thrilling. But definitely the most fun!!<< I agree RT. For me, not "most" fun. But very fun. Something that most little kids can ride with adults.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Then why are you here, RT? Honestly. Because you post this, something that has no purpose but to make you better than us.>> The post I was responding to was this: <<Condor Flats at DCA is about California aviation/flying. Soarin' Over California is first and foremost about being airborne and while being up there we get to see the splendors of California be it topographical sights(mountains and deserts), outdoor recreation(golfing, surfing, white water rafting, horse riding) or man made things(LA traffic, Disneyland, F-16's). The Land Pavilion at EPCOT however, is about the physical terrain(deserts, mountains, rain forests ect.), weather, and agricultue/soils/dirt--- in short, the natural environment. Again, aircraft carriers, golf balls, jet fighters/helicopters, Sleeping Beauty's Castle do not belong in The Land pavilion. They are grossly misplaced. So looking to bridge the overt differences or reconcile between the two themes of "California flight" (DCA) and "land" (EPCOT) Disney simply drops the "Over California" part from the attraction name and replaces pictures of aviation with pictures of natural settings--- a quick fix! The result: still a fine and fun attraction with a very high popularity but at its core most insulting.>> I certainly don't mind people saying that they like or dislike attractions, and giving their reasons why. THAT is why I’m here. But I thought that particular post was WAY over the edge. You may want to give that level of analysis to some things, but to a freaking Disney attraction? My God... get a life. JMHO.... As for being better than others, of course I am. I live in Minnesota. ;-)
Originally Posted By danyoung >... I guess you must think Disney sucks all the time Dan! Crazy, because I think Disney was somewhat right in shutting it [WofL] down.< I'm not sure I get your logic. I don't agree with Disney shutting WofL down, so I thing Disney sucks all the time? That's a leap that I never said and don't begin to believe. I have no problem with Disney closing things and updating them. I have a huge problem with them closing an area and then doing nothing with it, expecially an area that has such incredible attractions as Cranium Command and Body Wars (yes, I LOVE Body Wars!). I mean, they're just SITTING THERE, collecting dust, when they could be providing enjoyment to thousands of folks annually. So it costs Disney to run the stuff. Everything doesn't have to be a profit center on its own. It was quirky small things that made no money but provided great enjoyment that made Disneyland what it was in the first place.
Originally Posted By ChiMike ^ I agree with you and I am glad you saw the other thread! It's interesting to see how people defend different attractions. But, I agree with you Dan, it's the same way I felt about DL's carousel building, 20K, Horizons, Seacabs, Timekeeper, CoP, various dining locales, etc. Even for attractions like Timekeeper & WoL, which I am not very passionate about I think it's bad practice. Now if Disney did have something in place for WoL and ready to go with it I wouldn't shed a tear. WoL dated faster, in my eyes, than any other pavilion.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I wholly disagree. The pure joy of Soarin' is a combination of ride system, visuals and the greatest score ever written for a Disney attraction.<< Oh, I just ride it because I am hooked on pinesol smell...
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>I'm with you on this one, Lee. Without any one of these 3 key elements Soarin' would not be the killer attraction that it is<< We are not talking about Mission: Space here.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>As for being better than others, of course I am. I live in Minnesota.<< Curses Roady, curses!!! It could be worst though.. you could be in Texas. YIKES!!!
Originally Posted By danyoung >We are not talking about Mission: Space here.< Do you really think Mission: Space is a better attraction than Soarin'? >...you could be in Texas.< Nah - so few people are so lucky!
Originally Posted By ChiMike "Without any one of these 3 key elements Soarin' would not be the killer attraction that it is" >>We are not talking about Mission: Space here<< >snicker<
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <I certainly don't mind people saying that they like or dislike attractions, and giving their reasons why. THAT is why I’m here. But I thought that particular post was WAY over the edge. You may want to give that level of analysis to some things, but to a freaking Disney attraction? My God... get a life. JMHO....> Can I tell you something, RoadTrip? Your comment is bad form, IMHO. To me, if you're on a Disney theme park site, and discussing Disney theme park rides, where do you get off telling someone they should 'get a life.' Are we not here to discuss the minutae of Disney theme park attractions? And if you strip it all away, isn't it all kind of ridiculous?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>Do you really think Mission: Space is a better attraction than Soarin'?<< Actually NO. (but you missed the joke as usual) I'd take Nemo and Soarin Over CA over M:S anytime. >>Nah - so few people are so lucky!<< The only one I can think of is Labuda...the rest? meh! >>Can I tell you something, RoadTrip? Your comment is bad form, IMHO.<< Forgive him. He is from Minnesota and has not clue that the very reason for this board to be here is TO Disect Disney and it's attractions to the very core.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<To me, if you're on a Disney theme park site, and discussing Disney theme park rides, where do you get off telling someone they should 'get a life.'>> Whatever. In my other hobby (model railroading) we refer to people like that as 'rivet counters'. There are so obsessed with the model EXACTLY duplicating the prototype that they lose sight of everything else. I think that is extreme. I also think the post I referenced is extreme. If you think my post was 'poor form' that is certainly your right. I think MANY posts here are 'poor form'. I'm just polite enough to not mention it.
