Originally Posted By RoadTrip Excuse me if I found it rather bizarre that someone would find it "INSULTING" that Disney did not create a new film for the Epcot Soarin'. Cheap I could have handled. Lack of imagination I could have handled. Even blaming it on Eisner I could have handled. But INSULTING?? Give me a break. I'm going to the funeral of a 53-year-old co-worker tomorrow morning. Please forgive me if I think that someone who would obsess over such trivial garbage should 'get a life'. By the way… I still think that.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Nevermind. I really don't care. The post that Mr. Merced found so objectionable was (I thought) pretty clearly at least half in jest anyway. It was even marked with a winkie in case there was any doubt. But if he thinks it was really that objectionable... oh well. I’ll live with it.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Back on topic... I don't find Soarin' at Epcot any more of a stretch than Disney has made many other places in the name of entertainment. As far as I'm concerned both Rock N Rollercoaster and Tower of Terror are something of a stretch for the Studios. Sure... they are both set in Hollywood. But so are banks, clothing stores and bars. Should we have attractions centered on them also? But who cares? They are great attractions, and if they push the theme a little so what? Much the same with Expedition Everest in the AK. Sure, I know that once again it is set in Asia. And I know it deals with (superficially) an animal, even if it is an imaginary one. But once again, it is a fantastic attraction so who cares? These are after all AMUSEMENT parks. Well done, expensive, themed amusement parks; but amusement parks just the same. Where did all these rules come from all of a sudden?? Even Walt put Matterhorn right there in Fantasyland. Just what part of Matterhorn is fantasy?? Last I checked it was a very real mountain in Switzerland. Sure... the bobsledding down it is not terribly realistic. But let's face it... the attraction is there because it is a GREAT attraction and a GREAT weenie. Not because it fits the theme terribly well.
Originally Posted By Charliedontsurf "But I thought that particular post was WAY over the edge. You may want to give that level of analysis to some things, but to a freaking Disney attraction? My God... get a life." Oh, so now my declaration that Soarin' insults(and simultaneously pleases us with the fun factor) should not be defended when challenged. I wanted to defend my position well by offering up compelling specifics. Anyways, If we can't argue, persuade, analyse, anatomize, conjecture, theorize or philosophise then why come to a discussion board Mr. Trip? Better to stay home and watch "Alf", "Maude" or "Charles in Charge" reruns.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^I loved you on Golden Girls! WOW!!! A real celeb in our midst. Too bad Leemac's not here to witness this.
Originally Posted By Beatrice Arthur Thank you kindly. "Girls" was an interesting time for me. I did not expect such success again after the high I had experienced on "Maude". I had kind of lost enthusiasm as the show went on, but I did my job, and we had 7 really good years on the air (it was touching winning the Emmy). The DVD sales are really amazing...you fans out there are so sweet. Kisses.
Originally Posted By Beatrice Arthur Well I'm sure you're aware that Rue's Blanche Devereaux had eyes for nothing but men...hoardes of men. Our show did have some lesbian undertones, but moreso as comedy than any true character traits (Rue blowing in my ear for a date tip, Betty and Rue dirty dancing for a class, myself being compared so often to a man, etc.) I just had my agent do a Google search for "Rue McClanahan gay" and "Rue McClanahan lesbian", but nothing as to what you are suggesting has come up. I'm sure you know Rue had several marriages. Her real life would make almost as interesting a story as Blanche's.
Originally Posted By Charliedontsurf "Excuse me if I found it rather bizarre that someone would find it "INSULTING" that Disney did not create a new film for the Epcot Soarin'. Cheap I could have handled. Lack of imagination I could have handled. Even blaming it on Eisner I could have handled. But INSULTING?? Give me a break." "insulting" is one of the appropriate descritions for Soarin'. And as for "The Land" pavilion: bananas.......... yes rain forests..... yes wind............. yes sun/moon......... yes rocks............ yes Main Street USA.. no one of these things doesn't belong here- one of these things isn't the same--- Can you guess which one doesn't belong here, now it's time to play our game. You dig?
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>>>>> >> so that millions more guests can experience an attraction that IMHO is one of the finest created by WDI in the last two decades<< <<Out of personal preference I would disagree. Certainly not better than ToT, Everest, KS.>> Or Indy ... or Splash Mountain for that matter. Soarin is wonderful, but still a step below those. <<<<<<< Couldn't agree more! The scents help, the wind helps, the hydraulic motors pivoting the carriages help .. but a FILM simply cannot be mentioned in the same breath as FULLY dimensional attractions like Pirates of the Caribbean, Haunted Mansion or Indiana Jones.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I just had my agent do a Google search for "Rue McClanahan gay" and "Rue McClanahan lesbian", but nothing as to what you are suggesting has come up. I'm sure you know Rue had several marriages. Her real life would make almost as interesting a story as Blanche's.>> More ... much more. She's had an absolutely burning... no FLAMING existence. I think your old pal has sworn off men forever ... opting to enjoy the special pleasures that only a woman can offer.
Originally Posted By Charliedontsurf On a positive note about Soarin'..... It has to be by far the most comfortable attraction on earth. Such a smooth experience and our butts say thank you too.
Originally Posted By oc_dean The score is also terrific! Music plays such an important role in so many attractions. More so than many of us may realize. I hope a "Soarin' over America" or "Soarin' over the World" can have a score just as memorable as "Soarin' over California".
