Originally Posted By disneydad109 careful what you type .Does he hate mom,white people,middleclass people,I don't know how to hate an entire group of people.Statements like #44 are how words can bite you in the butt if your not careful.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 If person A writes something that it (willfully??) misinterpreted by person B, that's not person A's fault.
Originally Posted By Mr X The whole "racism against white folks" poutrage thing is getting tiresome. Not to mention disingenuous and more than a bit sickening, given the historical circumstances.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 I was just making a observation over how words can be and are twisted. Now moving on ...........
Originally Posted By Mr X Wasn't referring to you, per se, but the overall sentiment from the right wingers these days.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 Thats OK, I just find it sad that someone would "hate" a group of folks without a real good reason.We all know how "those people" act, "they" are all bad,I am so sick of reading about "them",something needs to be done about "them"Where does it start and more important where does it end. Let's reason togather !
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<I just find it sad that someone would "hate" a group of folks without a real good reason.>> 'Without a real good reason'? Are you effn serious? If you think my reasons aren't good enough, then you must obviously agree with the comments that were made regarding recipients of Head Start. Do you want to see Head Start abolished? Do you agree with the BS comments that were made regarding "good parents"? If you do agree with them, then in my eyes, you're a racist bigot as well.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 I just don't think that everybody in a any group of people is worthy of your hate.Since you have will never meet me nor will you every know the long boring story of my life you can't make an educated guess what I am nor could I make any judgement on anyone else here.
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Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 For the record, I am an upper-middle class, white, married, stay at home mom and, not only did I not take any offense to skinnerbox's comments, I fully agree with him that anyone who thinks that people like me are the only good parents or that Head Start aught to be abolished are racist bigoted bastards. Oh yeah, and I did put my kids in preschool because no matter how much a mom can teach her kids one-on-one, and I did that too, there are lessons about socialization and getting along with a bunch of different people that kids aren't going to learn at home. So that statement is also pretty ignorant on that front too.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 Sorry I wasn't really aware you were waiting for a answer. I am fine with head start being funded,Don't know if it makes a great difference but it sure can't hurt. Good parents ? Don't know what that means,we all do our best,I hope,but I don't think money,wedded status or anything else will tell us who doing "a good job" Hopefully we are all doing all we can.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 talking about good parents,I live in a white upper class area and I think it's sad the number of well off parents who will not pay for thier kids to attend college . These are folks who live in nice homes,two (or more) cars the whole nine yards.That why money has nothing to do with how you treat you children. Good parents,I don't think so.
Originally Posted By gadzuux My folks didn't pay for my college, and there was never any expectation that they would. They certainly "helped" in their own way, but I never considered them bad parents for not sponsoring my continuing education. That's a strange and arbitrary measurement for who does or doesn't qualify for good parenting.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance How do you know if you're living in a middle class or a upper/middle class? Is there some kind of monetary measure? As for the validity of head start or pre-school programs, it makes me very sad to think of them not being around someday, or only available to the wealthy. My daughter went to a pre-school which we paid for, and my son will go to the same program when he's old enough. We will pay for them both, as we don't usually qualify for federal or state funded help, but I think it should be there for everyone to give their kids the same shot as everyone else's. I think pre-school is a wonderful opportunity to prepare kids for school. Mainly for the socialization skills they acquire. They usually have more one on one time than they will have in public schools, and it's a great confidence booster for them. Helps them develop a sense of independence and gets them ready for time away from mommy and daddy. And for the record, I didn't take any offense to skinner's comments either. And I'm a white mom, middle/to upper class, married, blah blah, although I do work. But to think only someone like me or someone like me that doesn't work could be a good parent is disgusting and morally and ethically wrong.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 "Thanks, Jenn. You're a princess in my book." Awww...thanks ">I did put my kids in preschool< GASP! I need to call CPS now..." I know...my poor damaged children should never forgive me, even though they are healthy happy and well above grade level in math and reading. I guess I am a terrible parent who ruined their little lives forever, all because I put them in preschool. "We will pay for them both, as we don't usually qualify for federal or state funded help, but I think it should be there for everyone to give their kids the same shot as everyone else's. " Exactly CC. I want every child to have the same educational opportunities that my kids have. Many studies have shown the benefits of early childhood education and to say it should only be available to well off kids is just wrong.
Originally Posted By disneydad109 Why make your kids go deep into debt if you don't have too ? I would hate to think my child would have to pay off four years of college and then the money it took to put her thru Duke med school.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder I put myself through college and then law school. I'll be paying student loans until I'm 76 years old. Seriously.
